Jake's Back?

he also threw a touchdown, so, if he dropped back 62 times that game, he'd have six touchtowns?

or, why didn't he have 18 sacks and six fumbles in the game he did drop back 62 times?

so, what you're saying is that the panthers need a better backup QB. ok. i'm all for blowing a draft pick on a QB who you hope never sees the field...

like lefors.

 

and you could state that he took over the team in the worst possible situation - when the rest of the team had, seemingly, stopped playing worth a damn. The difference is a good collective effort Sunday by the team and Weinke just didn't respond. I don't necessarily think the team set out to take Weinke completely out of the gameplan, and that running so much was partially just a function of being up; but in his chances he just didn't give us much.

 

that's what you see, but i see a great gameplan to throw off a division rival. it's a trick play that kept on working. frustrated the hell out of atlanta, built up punch-mouth confidence in the offense and kept the clock running.

when you're the worst third-down converting team in the league (even WITH your regular franchise starting QB), then you've got to shake it up.

they shook it up. how come everyone takes it as an indictment on the backup QB? i prefer to give credit to the gameplan and the players who executed. the more it worked, the more it humiliated the falcons -- and i'm all for that.

 

I never said we need to draft a quarterback. I'd definitely like to address that in free agency or via trade, though. Not saying that we will, but it would be nice.

 

I'm not indicting the backup QB. I don't think anyone actually is. I'm just saying that in Weinke's time, when he was actually out there, he wasn't that good, and he wasn't good the week before, either. Most of his "good" in the Giants game was well after the Giants had it in hand.

That doesn't put all the blame on Weinke at all. But certainly, when running a draw without a QB even in the game is better than just knowing you'll probably take the sack, I can't say it's a positive for him, either.

 

I would have liked to have seen more than 7 points out of 180+ yards rushing and total domination of T.O.P.

other than that, I'll take the win and our chances against N.O. with either QB

 

It is more than just Weinkie having bad stats. He just looks lost. He has no ability to feel the rush coming either get rid of the ball or move. If his first read is not there he panics. After being in this offense for several years you would expect him to be comfortable out there. He may be limited by lack of talent but you would not expect the mental part of the game to be so lacking. It seems like there are only two options on Weinkie. He either wilts under game conditions or he has been slacking for years and did not learn the offense. I tend to think it is the first one.

 

exactly how many chances did he get? We ran 62 offensive plays and threw/attempted to throw exactly 10 of those 62 plays.

1st drive was 16 plays, 2 were passes.

2nd drive 6 plays, 2 passes, and a sack attempting a 3rd. There's 5 of the total 10 attempts.

3rd drive, 1 pass incomplete to Smitty. This was the ball he bobbled then ran over the ref. His fault, not Weinke's. He simply didn't put it away. A throw to Key that was incomplete as well. 7 of the 10 total attempts in the first half.

1st drive of the second half, 6 plays no pass attempts.

2nd drive, 12 plays 1 incomplete to Smitty, one sack. That's 8 of 10 attempts

3rd drive, 8 plays kept alive by the roughing call, 1 completion to Williams and the last sack. That's all 10 possible attempts with 9:11 remaining in the game.

Didn't show much? Could you rationally expect him to given the play calling? Back to back passes only once the entire game. There was no attempt to establish a passing game and Weinke's to blame for such small production? Discount an earlier performance because of the plays called then, but blame him for the ones not called this game? Guess he's to blame for his recievers not getting open too.

 

Ten, plus the ones that were called back. Are you stating he would've been better with more reps on the field? How do more reps get you sacked less, or make you more accurate?

He's not to blame for receivers not getting open, but he's to blame for not doing something with the ball, and guys were getting open. After 5 seconds, if no one's open, you get rid of it, you dump it off, you throw it out of bounds, or here's a good one, you step to the left so the DL at your feet who can't go anywhere won't bring you down.

 

Anybody who still thinks Weinke is a good QB is fucking brain dead. I like and respect the guy for being loyal and having a good attitude all this time but, he is simply not an NFL caliber QB.