Interesting article by Nicholas Kristoff

April 24, 2004
OP-ED COLUMNIST
Hug an Evangelical
By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF

I've argued often that gay marriage should be legal and that conservative Christians should show a tad more divine love for homosexuals.

But there's a corollary. If liberals demand that the Christian right show more tolerance for gays and lesbians, then liberals need to be more respectful of conservative Christians.

One of the most ferocious divides today is that between evangelical and secular America. Some conservative Christians are all too quick to sentence outsiders to hell. And liberals denounce stereotypes of Muslims but not of "Christian nuts."

It's encouraging that the right is less hostile to gays and lesbians than it used to be. President Bush argued in his 1994 run for governor that gay sex should be illegal, while now he feels comfortable hitting up gays for campaign contributions.

On the other hand, the left seems more contemptuous than ever of evangelicals. Sensitive liberals who avoid expressions like "ghetto blaster," because that might be racially offensive, blithely dismiss conservative Christians as "Jesus freaks" or "fanatics."

Take Ted Turner. He has called Christianity a "religion for losers" and once ridiculed CNN employees observing Ash Wednesday as "Jesus freaks." Later, he apologized.

Then there are the T-shirts: "So Many Right-Wing Christians . . . So Few Lions."

Of course, it's fair to criticize the Christian right's policies. Regular readers know I do so all the time, for religion is much too important an influence on policy to be a taboo. For example, while we're on the subject of gay marriage, one question for fundamentalist Christians is this: What's your basis for opposing lesbianism?

Granted, the Bible denounces male homosexuality, although it strikes me as inconsistent not to execute people who work on the Sabbath (Exodus 35:2) and not to crack down on those who get haircuts (Leviticus 19:27) or wear clothes with more than one kind of thread (Leviticus 19:19).

But there's no clear objection in the Bible to lesbianism at all. And since some fundamentalists have argued that AIDS is God's punishment for gay men, it's worth noting that lesbians are at less risk of AIDS than straight women. So if God is smiting gay men for their sin, is he rewarding lesbians for their holiness?

Those kinds of pointed questions are fair, but sneering is not. And in polite society, conservative Christians — especially Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses — are among the last groups it's still acceptable to mock.

That scorn is deeply resented. A poll this month found that three-quarters of evangelicals believe "the mass media is hostile," and nearly half agreed that "evangelical Christians are looked down upon by most Americans."

This resentment is global. In a Tyndale Lecture in England last year, Cristina Odone complained: "The chattering classes . . . pride themselves on being tolerant. . . . Yet they share one prejudice that turns them into rabid persecutors: Christians."

There's also an odd lack of intellectual curiosity within the secular left about the Christian right. After 9/11, intellectuals rushed out to buy books about Islam. But on many campuses, it's easier to find people who can discuss the Upanishads than the "Left Behind" books about Jesus' Second Coming — which, with more than 40 million copies, are the best-selling American novels of our age. To be worldly, one should understand not only Tibetan Buddhism but also red-state Pentecostalism.

Liberals often protest that they would have nothing against conservative Christians if they were not led by hypocritical blowhards who try to impose their Ten Commandments plaques, sexual mores and creationism on society. But that's a crude stereotype, and it ignores the Christian right's accomplishments. Polls show that evangelical Christians are more likely to contribute to charities that help the needy, and in horror spots in Africa Catholics and other Christians are the bulwark of the health care system.

Moreover, saying that one will tolerate evangelicals who do not evangelize — well, that's like Christians saying they have nothing against gays who remain celibate.

It's always easy to point out the intolerance of others. What's harder is to practice inclusiveness oneself. And bigotry toward people based on their faith is just as repugnant as bigotry toward people based on their sexuality.

Copyright 2004 The New York Times Company

 

actually, it's more like saying: i have nothing against gays, so long as they don't try to hit on me. christians going to church on sundays and praying to jesus for favor is akin to homosexuals having sex.

i think he's sorta accurate, tho. christians just need to play up the victim angle a little bit more. the reason we're so conscious about other groups is that they squawk so loudly when they are tread upon. of course, they're derided for that very reason as well, but it gets the point across. some christian groups should go ahead and bite the bullet and start preaching victimology.

 

Yep. Worked for everyone else.

 

Start?

 

Oh pluheeze who started the uproar, gays denied social/civil rights or christian nuts hell bent on suppressing gay lifestyle. Holy Rollers start denigrating others then get all misty and stuff when normal people start calling them fucked up wackos. As far as evangelicals go let them go evangelize in the privacy of there own bedrooms, I don't want to listen to it. To the extent that televanglists should pay income tax on the proceeds obtained from on air solicition. fuckin wacko holy roller jesus freak pains in the ass. At least krishnas gave away flowers. Is this guy a former jew for hitler or something?

 

yeah, well, of course the teach victimology. hell, the symbol of the religion is a gay being crucified. they got the victim angle down. maybe they just need to take lessons. the jews are masters of playing up the victim angle. blacks are damn good as well. black jews must be gods.

 

Freudian slip?

 

heh...

 

I think this is the core statement of the whole issue. Evangelicals are spewing the same hell, fire, and brimstone that many of them were brought up with, and using it -- not as a warning borne from love for their fellow man, but as a tool to make them feel better about themselves, and better than other people. Is it any wonder it pisses secular society off?

1 Corinthians 13:1-3 (NLT)
"If I could speak in any language in heaven or on earth but didn't love others, I would only be making meaningless noise like a loud gong or a clanging cymbal. If I had the gift of prophecy, and if I knew all the mysteries of the future and knew everything about everything, but didn't love others, what good would I be? And if I had the gift of faith so that I could speak to a mountain and make it move, without love I would be no good to anybody. If I gave everything I have to the poor and even sacrificed my body, I could boast about it; but if I didn't love others, I would be of no value whatsoever."

 

Kristof is right on one thing... our country is getting way too polarized. I don't like it. That's the danger of any kind of rigid dogma... whether judgemental Puritainism or enforced "tolerance." We've got to find a way to live and let live, or we're in for a very ugly future.