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intelligent design

Discussion in 'Religion & Spirituality Forum' started by Superfluous_Nut, Aug 21, 2005.

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  1. Aug 23, 2005 at 5:03 PM #31
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    Objection to what, specifically?
     
  2. Aug 23, 2005 at 5:05 PM #32
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    Kshead thinks it better to teach an unproven theory than an unprovable theory.
     
  3. Aug 23, 2005 at 5:07 PM #33
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    I think it's a great discussion for philosophy class.

    To call them equivalent in a scientific context is a joke.
     
  4. Aug 23, 2005 at 5:08 PM #34
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    ID coming anywhere near a science class.
     
  5. Aug 23, 2005 at 5:15 PM #35
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    Actually, it's not a joke. ID is a scientific theory, not a philosophical one. And theoretically, ID has just as much (if not more) merit than macroevolution. If you're saying not to include it because it's scientifically unsound, fine. All I'm saying is apply the same standard to macroevolution and eliminate both.
     
  6. Aug 23, 2005 at 5:16 PM #36
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    Yes. That's exactly what I'm saying. It's not a scientific theory HB.
     
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    Yes, it is. It's a theory based on the complexity of life (among other things) and the development process of all matter, both terrestrial and extra terrestrial. It has nothing to do with worship or ethics or philosophy.
     
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    It is a scientific theory in that it claims that only one observed phenomenom can explain irreducible complexity and epigenesis. Intelligence. When you claim that intelligence is God you leave the realm of science.
     
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    :agreed:
     
  10. Aug 23, 2005 at 5:44 PM #40
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    I've been looking for this quote:

    "The main problem with teaching intelligent design in science class is that intelligent design is not science. How can I be so sure? For starters, intelligent design still hasn't proposed a hypothesis that can be proven false -- a basic requirement of a scientific theory -- much less proposed a test that might be used to falsify that theory."

    John is a lot harsher at this link: http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=5130 but I thought I'd offer it up anyway. I'm not gonna reprint all of it here. But there's some good stuff in between all the ranting.
     
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