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Discussion in 'Charlotte Hornets' started by The Brain, Apr 19, 2005.

  1. The Brain

    The Brain Defiler of Cornflakes

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    that's not exactly what its looking like. Its looking like they all go. The best hope is, I'm betting May will enter w/o an agent and could possibly pull out if ranked too low.
     
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    Well unless he can play PG UNC is still fucked.
     
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    From Katz:

    Duke, ACC newbie BC smiling over turnover

    Which two ACC teams are the biggest beneficiaries of all these recent defections to the NBA?

    Duke's definitely one. And, believe it or not, Boston College.

    The ACC is in the process of taking a massive hit from NBA draft early entries, and that clearly benefits the Blue Devils and Eagles, both of whom are expected to return talented and heavily-upperclass lineups.

    Defending national champ North Carolina? Could lose its top seven scorers, including four underclassmen, if Sean May, Raymond Felton and Marvin Williams follow Rashad McCants into the draft.

    Wake Forest? Already down its best player after sophomore Chris Paul declared Thursday. Forward Eric Williams is expected to test the draft process, too. If he leaves, it would gut the Demon Deacons of their point guard and center for next season.

    Maryland should be strong with four returning starters, but while John Gilchrist and Gary Williams didn't always agree on approach, Gilchrist still was one of the Terps' top scorers and its lead guard. Now he's gone.

    Georgia Tech is waiting for Jarrett Jack to make up his mind. But the Yellow Jackets already have lost seniors Will Bynum, B.J. Elder, Luke Schenscher and Is'mail Muhammad.

    N.C. State isn't losing any underclassmen, but its best player, do-it-all Julius Hodge, is a senior.

    Miami, Virginia Tech and Clemson will still be solid and are potential NCAA teams, but that doesn't exactly stand up and scream "ACC champ."

    Assuming Williams returns, Duke should be a national title contender.
    No, this race could be decided early.

    Duke. Boston College. 1-2.

    Duke loses Daniel Ewing and Reggie Love. That's it. Even walk-on center Patrick Johnson, listed as a senior athletically, actually has one more season left because he didn't start playing until he was a sophomore.

    The Blue Devils return arguably two of the top players at their respective positions in shooting guard J.J. Redick and center Shelden Williams. Duke assistant Chris Collins said Thursday that Williams is still investigating declaring for the draft, but they believe he is coming back.

    The other returnees are all important cogs in this machine – shooting forward Lee Melchionni, guard DeMarcus Nelson, point Sean Dockery, forward Shavlik Randolph and forward David McClure. And, we're not sure if you were watching any of the high school all-star games the past two weeks, but if you did, you couldn't miss seeing a Duke newcomer somewhere on the floor.

    The Blue Devils add two potential candidates for national freshman of the year in point Greg Paulus and power forward Josh McRoberts. The staff also believes it got a steal in shooting guard Martynas Pocius, who could come in and be a spot shooter off the bench to back up Redick. Those three are expected to be significant contributors next season. The Blue Devils also added forwards Eric Boateng and Jamal Boykin.

    "We should be right there, right in it," Collins said of the national title race, not the ACC championship quest. "We feel we'll have two of the best players at their position, and a really good team coming back. We've also got freshmen who can come in and play."

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    The Eagles, who are leaving the Big East, should jump to the top of the ACC, behind Duke, if they can escape the NBA bug, too.

    Junior Craig Smith isn't expected to declare. Neither is sophomore Jared Dudley. These two combined for one of the most productive scoring forward tamdems in the country this season. The Eagles also return Sean Marshall, Louis Hinnant and Sean Williams. That's five of their top seven scorers, including the top two in Smith (18.0 ppg) and Dudley (16.5).

    The only two players the Eagles are losing were role players – center Nate Doornekamp and guard Jermaine Watson.

    BC left the Big East with a share of the conference title. The Eagles could enter the ACC as the favorite to finish second, making the transition incredibly smooth. The Blue Devils and Eagles are slated to play only once next season – possibly even more good news for both.

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    Can somebody please fucking tell that to KJ77?
     
  6. The Brain

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    It won't matter. Andy Katz writes for ESPN and he doesn't consider them a credible source.
     
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    Marvin's dad already said he's coming back, Marvin has made multiple statements about how much he likes college life, and he said he already made the decision on what he would do before the championship game. Throw in the fact that he was top-5 last year too but didn't enter and things look pretty good.

    As for PG, Thomas is obviously no Felton, but he's adequate as a passer and dribbler, especially assuming he improves.
     
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    If by adequate, you mean can’t do it at all and looks scared as shit when he is on the floor, then sure – he’s adequate.
     
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    set the over at 70
     
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    From ESPN Insider:
    STOCK UP
    Sean May, F/C, North Carolina
    The line: 22.3 ppg, 10.7 rpg, 67 percent shooting
    The skinny: No one has done more to boost his draft stock in the tournament than May. As we stated last week, scouts have always been a little wishy-washy on May because of his bulk, size and athleticism for his position. He plays like a center, but measures in at just 6-foot-9, maybe shorter according to some. But he has been so dominant in the tournament that scouts are quickly re-assessing their positions. What May lacks in size he makes up for in smooth moves around the basket, terrific hands, a nice jumper out to 20 feet, and tenacious work on the glass. He showed in the championship game versus Illinois that he can be an intelligent, vocal leader and his passing skills out of the post were fantastic. May has been saying all year that he's returning for his senior season at North Carolina. However, he's begun to waver the past week after getting feedback from scouts, who now place him anywhere from 10 to 29 on their draft boards. That's a huge and dangerous spread for any player. His draft stock always will be tied, in most ways, to his measurements. If he's a legit 6-9 or taller, he has the chance to work his way into the late lottery. There just aren't many players with his size and experience in the draft. If he measures much smaller, he'll slip. Either way, May is probably in. He's not going to grow between now and his senior season and his stock has and will never be higher than it is right now.

    Raymond Felton, PG, UNC
    The line: 13.7 ppg, 6.8 apg, 5.8 rpg, 44 percent shooting from 3
    The skinny: Is it time for scouts to finally drop the "Raymond Felton can't shoot" line? For years, scouts have loved his speed and floor vision. But the knock on his jumper and relative lack of offense had many scouts constantly questioning his ability to be an impact player in the pros. Even when he shot 44 percent this season from the 3-point arc, the scouting report refused to budge. In the tournament, he proved that he could hit those big shots when it mattered. He connected on 4 of 5 from 3 in the title game versus Illinois. Felton didn't have a perfect tournament, but he played well enough to guarantee himself a spot in the lottery, if not the top 10, just a few ticks behind teammate Marvin Williams and Wake Forest's Chris Paul.

    Deron Williams, PG, Illinois
    The line: 14.7 ppg, 8.3 apg, 47 percent shooting
    The skinny: Williams had some amazing games in the tournament; unfortunately, his performance against North Carolina wasn't the best. While he did a great job of playing under control and locking down Rashad McCants in the second half, he missed seven 3-point attempts and showed that quickness is still a legit issue. He was unable to get by his man most of the night, preventing him from penetrating and kicking to the open shooter. Still, overall, Williams had an amazing tournament and has seen his stock improve. We've had him ranked as the No. 2 point guard prospect in the draft since opening day, and he's still there, behind only Paul. But earlier in the year, we had him as a late-lottery pick. Given how the draft is shaping up, Williams could go as high as the No. 4 overall pick in the draft.

    Luther Head, G, Illinois
    The line: 16.7 ppg, 4.0 apg, 39 percent shooting
    The skinny: Head's shot wasn't falling the way he wanted it to in the tournament, but when scouts watch his shooting mechanics, they see a guy with a quick release and a very accurate jump shot. The question with Head all year has been the same – can he play point guard? He didn't prove it one way or the other in the tournament, but he got enough exposure, and scouts fell in love with enough of the other things that he does well, that he'll get a very serious look from NBA teams in workouts. He'll probably have to play in the Chicago pre-draft camp. If he can prove that he has what it takes to be a point guard in the NBA, he'll be a late first-rounder. If he can't, he'll be a nice pickup in the second round.


    STOCK DOWN
    Francisco Garcia, SG/SF, Louisville
    The line: 17.6 ppg, 3.8 apg, 44 percent shooting
    The skinny: Garcia's stock has bounced all over the place this season. After the first two rounds of the tournament, it looked like Garcia had propelled himself solidly into the first round with some amazing shooting and great ball-handling skills. That all came crashing down to earth against Illinois on Saturday. Garcia was awful, going just 2-for-10 from the field, grabbing just one board and dishing out two assists in 32 minutes. His tendency to disappear in big games has been a problem all season. He had seemingly overcome it in the tournament, but his stinker against Illinois will bring back a lot of bad memories for scouts. The fact that Rick Pitino is now backing off his Garcia-to-the-NBA push is telling. It's amazing how quickly a positive can turn into a negative. Garcia's stock is all over the board. Look for him to go anywhere between 20 and 40 on draft night, if he decides to declare.

    Marvin Williams, F, North Carolina
    The line: 12 ppg, 7.3 rpg
    The skinny: We love Marvin Williams. Still think he's the best prospect in the draft and still feel that he'll be a top-three pick in the draft if he decides to come out. But he's really struggled the past few games, and nerves clearly got the best of him Monday night against Illinois. He bobbled the ball seemingly on every possession and missed a number of opportunities to help his team. With all of that said, had his teammates found him wide open on three or four fast-break possessions, we'd be talking about a freshman who dropped 14 to 16 points coming off the bench in a title game. Still, what's done is done. Some expect someone ranked as highly as Williams to be dominant in a big game like this. He hasn't been that way since the opening round. It won't change where he goes in the draft, but his performance was nevertheless disappointing.

    Rashad McCants, SG, North Carolina
    The line: 17 ppg, 48 percent shooting
    The skinny: He was OK in the tournament, but is no longer the dominating lottery pick that scouts saw earlier in the season. Some will blame that on a myriad of personal problems that clearly took its toll on McCants. But he has basketball problems, too. He's too small for his position, doesn't have a great handle and completely disappeared in the second half when Deron Williams got more physical with him. McCants was quick to announce his intentions to declare for the draft after the game. It's probably a mistake. He's played himself down into the late first round at this point. He has more talent than that, however, and should use his senior year at North Carolina to prove it.
     

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