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Discussion in 'Carolina Panthers' started by TOTALPACKAGE, Jul 23, 2012.

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    I made an observation, and since I'm always correct, you could have deduced that my observation was correct. That's all the rationale I need to give.











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    I've always acknowledged being an asshole; you haven't.

    Interesting that when I catch you lying and making up false quotes you describe that as "whining." And no, I never said anything even remotely close to the quote you made up: "I wanted it to stop." You flat out lied, and you're continuing to lie and make excuses by pretending that your made-up quote was close instead of a complete fabrication. See, your problem is that you're continuously guilty of the behavior you accuse others of perpetrating.

    If I sign a three year contract with Verizon, it doesn't mean I have a "long term plan." The fact that Hurney's moves make no sense when put together shows that no such long-term plan exists. Spending the #13 overall pick on Stewart might have made sense if the team didn't already have a highly effective RB taken in the first round just two drafts prior. Signing DeAngelo to such an expensive deal might have been acceptable if Stewart wasn't already on the roster. Signing Stewart to an expensive extension might have been acceptable if DeAngelo wasn't already one of the highest paid running backs. The moves Hurney makes in separate years often replicate or contradict each other, showing the absence of any long-term vision. Note also that you're still the only person arguing that Hurney has any such long-term plan.

    Stop with the semantic bullshit. There were a ton of free agents available in the summer of 2010 who signed for very reasonable contracts. Hurney blew all the money re-signing a 2-14 team, so the biggest signing who wasn't already on the roster was Olindo Mare. That was obviously stupid, and showed the lack of any long-term plan.

    And yet everyone here except you agrees that he's shown no evidence of any long-term plan. Note that udontknowme, an Eagles fan, said the same thing about Hurney. You're alone, and it's because you're wrong. Even you know that you're wrong, this is just another case where you can't admit it.

    Ted specifically said that Hurney is just a yes man and you agreed. I quoted you doing that.

    I'm aware of that. Richardson is inept when it comes to evaluating the people who manage his businesses. That's exactly the point of the Denny's example.

    Here's what you posted on page 19: "You bring up trading picks when I clearly have said many times that JR has nothing to do with that." I challenged you to find one post from before this thread where you ever said that JR had nothing to do with trading picks. You haven't produced one because you know that you never said any such thing. You lied, you got caught, and now you're trying to weasel your way out of it. Post the proof of what you claimed, magnus.

    You evidently don't have the slightest clue how ownership of a business usually works, in the sports world or anywhere else. The guys like Jerry Jones and Peter Angelos who meddle are notable precisely because they're the exceptions. You have repeatedly claimed that Hurney is just a "conduit," and that Richardson actually makes the decisions you would expect from a general manager. That's simply not true.

    Yes, you most certainly have:
     
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    doesn't make it "right". Doesn't mean you don't take it way too far, just because you say it. I've never had a problem with smartass, you know what I've had issue with. Now you regret your past actions, but only when you're not talking to me about it.


    it's definitely a shell game. You want to worry hard about quotes when they're your words, and yet you claim my words don't mean what they quote, or what I say they mean.
    And, you did whine about them.


    When you pointed out my paraphrase, I agreed I was incorrect. FWIW, the quote was "I couldn't stop?" suggesting that I couldn't, when I never said I would. Of course, it really is close, and while I admitted I was incorrect (which of course must've been an illusion), it's just another game to divert attention. You "tried to stop" by being passive-aggressive, and then blamed me for continuing to post on something I still have things to discuss. Maybe you did want to stop, but couldn't help it?


    You plan on having phone service for three years, yes? Of course, buying something exactly when you need something isn't necessarily a good example of long term planning, but not my example.



    you not liking the moves mean there's no plan. Clearly.

    You first. I'd welcome that. But yes, I would consider Charles Johnson and Deangelo Williams bigger signings. Wouldn't you? Were they free agents or not? That's not some miniscule detail. That's not some fine print.


    It's my opinion. My opinion isn't factually incorrect just because you don't like it. This seems to be a trend, though. It seems to be that facts are very emotionally based.

    FWIW, Marty Hurney says he has a plan. JR says they have a plan. Since it's their plan, I guess they might know, but hey. Maybe they're lying.

    I agreed about JR's involvement. Which is what I stated.


    as an employee, whether Richardson demands Marty do everything he's done, or does absolutely nothing, Marty's job is to do a satisfactory job in JR's eyes. You not liking Marty or me not liking Marty doesn't mean JR doesn't.


    again, I don't have nineteen pages. But no, I haven't looked for the quote - having said, or not said what I didn't say seems much less relevant than your claim:
    that I said it, but can't come up with it. I thought you were done with semantics - but you want to argue about whether or not I pre-said something?


    don't even use the words GM. You love trying to make me say things I haven't. I guess arguing with my real words don't you going enough.

    Marty is the GM. Can't say that enough, apparently, but doubt it sticks. JR has a lot of say, and you might not like that, but that doesn't make it impossible, implausible, or unlikely. Maybe you like JR enough that you don't want to feel for him what you feel for Marty, but that's not very factually based (regardless of his involvement).
     

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