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How can you be Christian and be Pro Choice?

Discussion in 'Religion & Spirituality Forum' started by Savio, Jul 20, 2005.

  1. Savio

    Savio Freelance Pimp

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    I'm trying to figure it out. I know there isn't anything specific in the bible concern abortion but there are hints in scriptures about His views.

    There is also a commandment that states, "Thou shall not kill."
     
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    I can't come at this question as a Christian; but that doesn't mean I don't take it very seriously.

    I DO believe that every individual life is sacred. I don't believe anyone should take that lightly.

    But I am also a living being in the modern world who has seen horrors beyond the comprehension of many.

    I had an abortion many years ago. I was a new mother in a marriage with a violent alcoholic. I knew that I needed to SOMEDAY escape this situation . . . & I also knew that to protect ONE child was more than enough to test my limits.

    I don't believe that there are no consequences to my decision at that time. What I do believe is that it was MY choice to make, whatever the consequences might be.

    Many people who are against having the woman who might bear the child making the choice--to give birth or not--have no idea what the consequences to both mother & child might be. They may THINK they do; but they really have no concept of it.

    I have a sister who is a fundamentalist Christian; and I love her & respect her beyond anything I can express in words. But I say to anyone who cares to hear exactly what I have said to her:

    When you can guarantee to me that any child born will be taken into a loving home & given a REAL opportunity to succeed, I will be willing to outlaw abortion.

    If you're unable or unwilling to take one or more children in, you have no right to make that choice for someone else.

    Choosing to abort is not what I'd consider a GOOD choice; but sometimes it is the kindest choice that can be made.
     
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    There have been pages and pages of arguments here on that very thing. I think a lot of it was in NOTD.

    I am pro choice even though I don't think I could have an abortion myself. But not necessarily because I think it's killing a child because I don't. An unborn fetus is an unborn fetus. It isn't a child until it's born. An embryo isn't a child any more than an egg and sperm they put in petre dish in lab, and those are discarded by the thousands every year in fertility clinics. I really don't see much difference than using spermicide as birth control.

    I realize there are thin lines when it comes to this and everybody has drawn their own line at different locations in the sand. And that is why I am pro choice. I think it is up to the individual and their conscience, morals, what they think God tells them to do or whatever to do what they feel is right. It isn't up to me or anyone else to tell them what they can and cannot do for such an important decision in their life. I also feel very strongly that if someone does not want to be a parent they shouldn't.
     
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    i'm not a christian, but i would think the "thou shall not kill" commandment isn't exactly written in stone. okay, well, maybe it is, but not in the sense that it's universal.

    how can you be christian and advocate the death penalty?

    how can you be christian and serve in the military?



    but aside from that, you'd have to accept that abortion is in fact "killing" (as the bible defines it) before then contemplating how it fits into christian practice. i suspect there are many, many different views on when the embryo/fetus/baby is truly an entity unto itself.
     
  5. kshead

    kshead What's the spread?

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    A cell is not a kid.
     
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    though shalt not murder is the literal translation of that commandment.
     
  7. QueenCityHillbilly

    QueenCityHillbilly Bitch, I Will Kill You

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    As a Christian, I'm against abortion, the death penalty, and just generally killing people anywhere in the world.

    As an American, I'm against abortion, the death penalty and just generally killing people anywhere in the world.
     
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    Well frankly Abortion has absolutely nothing to do with the fact if you're a Christian or not. I'm not gonna argue for or against abortion here, but to be a Christian all you have to do is accept Jesus Christ as your saviour and know that his death on the cross cleansed you of your sins. So if you consider abortion a sin, then as long as the person committing said sins is repentant and asks the lord to forgive them, then they go to heaven.

    I've always wondered why groups try to use Christianity to skew political propaganda, but then again I guess that's another issue too.
     
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    That depends on your point of view. If you want to be pregnant, then it is a baby. You buy baby clothes, you tell your parents that they are going to be grandparents, you are eating for two, you pick names, etc. If you don't want to be pregnant, then it's a cell. It's called dehumanizing. It's used all the time, especially in war.
     
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    Or I freeze it with 12 others created in the lab just like it until the divorce settlement is signed. Then I flush it down the drain with the other 12. No war required.

    Anything I can put into a form of suspended animation until I can mess with it later on in the lab is not a kid.
     

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