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Discussion in 'College Football Forum' started by DaveW, Oct 24, 2005.

  1. sockittome16

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    Georgia has been missing 3 of its 4 on its defensive front for the past two weeks, and we just lost our QB for the Florida game, so I think unless we have an outstanding running game we will lose. Alabama has arguably the best defense in the league. No way in the world that FSU would beat them. The only team that is more overrated than FSU would be Boston College, who will get thrashed by Va. Tech. Va Tech has one of the best defenses in the country and I think will get screwed out of a title game if they go undefeated. Who exactly has Miami played that's good at all and actually won. Georgia and Alabama are both undefeated so you can't really argue with their rankings. Georgia Tech played a good opening game against Auburn and won and deserve credit, but if they played them right now Auburn would beat them. Look at all the ranked teams that are in the SEC and their only losses (except for Auburn's loss to Tech) has been to other ranked SEC teams. The ACC besides Va. Tech is very down. Miami hasn't really beaten anyone (have they even beaten a ranked team?). The conferences are very different though. The top 6 SEC teams are all pretty strong teams, and the bottom 6 aren't very good at all. The ACC has a bunch of 5-6 and 6-5 teams so of course the ACC would probably win those bottom games, but the SEC would be overrated if the teams dropped far after playing each other, but 3 teams are in the top 6 in the country and 6 of them in the top 25. To say Virginia is better than Tennessee is just dumb. Virginia beat an overrated FSU team and only put up 5 against UNC. Alabama wouldn't even let Florida State score. Florida would also beat Boston College. Florida had one bad game and lost a close one to LSU at LSU. To bad we don't get to give them our best shot with Shockley out. You also said that the top 6 teams in the SEC would lose to 6 ACC teams, which doesn't make any sense at all.
     
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    Bowling Green also almost beat Wisconsin at Wisconsin. Utah isn't even that good this year, so congratulations. Texas A&M isn't ranked and barely beat Baylor. The Whitehurst Era in Clemson might be one of the most dissapointing eras in recent memory there. I think Auburn is a little overrated right now, but they have the bulk of their tough schedule coming up with LSU, us and Alabama, and if UNC played that schedule they would lose all those games. Only an idiot would say they would win against any of those teams. The SEC might not be winning in dominant fashion but they are still winning. You can't fault a team like Alabama or Georgia for being ranked in the top 5 since both their records are both 7-0. LSU is getting better each week but Alabama or LSU will fall back cause they have to play each other. N.C. State has also been a gigantic dissapointment.
     
  3. Collin

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    You have to be kidding. Without Prothro, Alabama no longer has an offense, and FSU's defense is as good as theirs. And now that Kyle Wright has come around for Miami, there is no way that LSU could beat them. Then Boston College is too physical for Florida, and Virginia is better than Tennesee simply because UT is just plain awful this year. Watching them is painful. The only one of those that would even have a chance of being reversed is Georgia Tech over Auburn, as it depends on how well Reggie Ball plays. Auburn has been getting a lot of buzz lately, but Brandon Cox looked pretty bad against LSU.


    They beat the hell out of Colorado, who is currently 5-2 (only lost to Miami and Texas). That's a better non-conference win than anyone in the SEC has. They also beat the hell out South Florida, but the Bulls haven't really been that good outside of that weird Louisville game.

    That's because they don't have the courage to play anyone outside of the SEC. Who is the league's best non-conference win? Boise State? Look over the schedules. The SEC was too chicken shit to play anyone this year.

    They would. You have to be dreaming if you think any of those games aside from GT-Auburn and maybe UVA-Tenn would have more than a snowball's chance of turning out any other way. The top 4 ACC teams are not only better than the SEC's top 4, they're far better. If you actually watch those eight teams play, it's obvious.

    I don't blame the teams, I blame the voters given that they are incredibly stupid and will vote for anyone if they have an undefeated record (like how ridiculous it was that TCU was in the top ten during the '02 season, or Boise State last year). I imagine the SEC is full of hard-working, talented players and I wish them all the best, but that doesn't change the fact that the SEC is really down this season and that their teams are ridiculously overrated. I don't see how anyone who has to sit through one of the games can say otherwise. They haven't beaten anyone outside the SEC, and they look absolutely terrible when they play each other.
     
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    Florida State and Florida
    Notre Dame and Tennessee
    Georgia and Georgia Tech

    all good non conference games. Tennessee played Alabama really well and should have beaten them. Tennessee almost killed Brody Croyle like ten times. And not one wide receiver unless he's Randy Moss or Terrell Owens makes that big of a difference in a college offense, especially an offense like Alabama's where Brown and Hall are both good wide receivers. The problem was Alabama's offensive line. Who almost let Brody Croyle get decapitated about ten times. The only way Alabama's offense will be extremely affected is if Darby or Croyle go down. Besides, their defense is unbelievable. You realize that you just said FSU is far and away better than any of the top 4 teams in the SEC, and that same FSU team got beaten by Virginia who is a decent team. I actually think that Miami is a far better team than FSU even though FSU won that game. The way Irons is playing for Auburn there is no way that GT would be able to control him and Cox is playing a ton better. All the other games would be close, but there's no way you can say the top teams in the ACC are far and away better than the SEC's. Boston College would get beaten by LSU, Georgia, or Alabama hands down. Colorado is a crappy team. They've only really played two good teams and got destroyed by them both. They beat Texas A&M but that's not as big of a deal as everyone thought. Like it or not, Boise State will be ranked at the end of the season if they beat Fresno. South Florida is a crappy Big East team. West Virginia was a good non-conference win but I think if they played in the ACC or the SEC they would either be ranked near the bottom of the top 25 or not ranked at all. Big East is terrible. FSU hasn't played a great out of conference opponent. Either has Boston College. UNC and Georgia Tech play pretty tough out of conference schedules cause there programs are average and they are trying to get more national attention.
     
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    Bama's got enough O. Losing Protho sucks, because he was dynamic as a reciever and a return man, but Hall and Brown still have made big plays. Plus they have a back that averages 5 a carry. And a senior QB that makes good decisions. FSU would get waxed. UT's defense is, and has, played very well. It's the offense that's been inconsistent, but even they have moved the ball. But don't confuse 6 points in a rivalry game against a very strong rush with being bad offensively. Line is a little shaky, but they have good skill players still.

    LSU is just too strong for Miami. LSU really is the class of the conference and won't lose another game. They had their coverage problems, but it got corrected and they'll win out. Miami has waxed some scrubs, but they'd look like Florida did vs LSU.

    Virginia doesn't run very well, and Hagans would throw a couple away. UT would beat Virginia.
     
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    I can't remember a year where so many teams are flawed.

    No one plays offense anymore in either conference. That goes for the top 3 ACC teams (Va Tech, Miami, and FSU) and the SEC's top teams (Bama, UGA, Aub).

    Random shit...

    LSU is getting fucked by the combo of a new coach and a hurricane. I put Auburn over them because Auburn should have beaten them like a drum last weekend.

    Something just ain't right at Tenn - QB situation? Same with UVA. There's a lot of talent on that UVA team. Too much to suck like they do. I blame Groh. And Hagans. That kid looked All-World against FSU after throwing the ball at his WRs' feet the previous three weeks.
     
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    you kill me with your complete blabble. So give us your top 25, Mr. Football.
     
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    Jay Davis from NCSU could your QB since he isnt a starter anymore.
     
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    40Whiners?
     
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    Tennessee had no idea that Notre Dame would be worth a damn, while the other two games are scheduled every year. Come on, you set yourself up for that one. The SEC was chicken shit and didn't schedule any decent non-conference opponents this year.

    They are good wide receivers, but they're not dynamic play-making threats like Prothro. Do you really think Tennessee would have regularly walked eight men down into the box if he was still with the Tide? Do you think they would have blitzed as much? I'll grant you that UT's defensive linemen played very well, but it's naive to suggest that losing your top playmaker wasn't going to make a difference. It's about more than just having some other guys who can catch the ball, it's about dictating what the defense can and can't do.


    Newsflash: Georgia Tech is one of the top run defenses in the country. Plus, Cox certainly didn't look that good against LSU.

    I just did, and moreover, I backed it up. Whether you like or not, Georgia Tech did beat Auburn, and the ACC's top teams have played far better than the SEC's top teams. If Florida can beat FSU then I'll certainly eat these words, but it isn't going to happen. By the end of the season, the SEC won't have any quality wins outside of its own conference, and then they're going to get destroyed in whatever bowl games they get sent to because of them being overrated in the rankings. Honestly I don't even know how you can stand to watch the SEC games this year. Pretty much every team except Georgia is painful to see, and even the Bulldogs are just solid, not dominant.

    :lmao:

    :lmao: :lmao:

    You're correct about FSU and Boston College (at least until FSU whips Florida), but obviously you don't expect every team to schedule someone big, especially when the conference games are so tough and you have only two or three non-conference games to fill. That's why I wouldn't give the SEC any crap if there were only a couple of teams that had all patsies on their schedule, but the problem is that all the SEC teams have been ducking any real opponents (except for UT, which as mentioned, had no idea that ND would be any good).


    Also note that this is not just my opinion. It seems as if all the analysts, both online at ESPN and SI, and those covering the weekend games, all agree about the SEC being overrated. I understand why people who are SEC homers would want to believe otherwise, but the only evidence you need for the league being down is to watch one of the games. They're ugly. They're filled with mistakes, missed assignments, poor execution, and all around ugliness.
     

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