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Discussion in 'Religion & Spirituality Forum' started by Trace, Nov 18, 2004.

  1. vpkozel

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    Sly, I don't doubt that Jesus lived. I don't have major doubts that he was executed. I have major doubts that he was resurrected. Eyewitness accounts don't justify the impossible to me. People willing to die for what they beleive doesn't prove they are correct, either.

    I try to view things in the Holmesian "when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth" manner. I simply can't reconcile the impossibility.
     
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    Not just die, agree to be tortured to death. If Jesus' resurrection was a fake, they'd know it, or at least some of them would. Nobody turned. Nobody.


    If there is no God, then yes -- it is impossible for human beings to resurrect themselves. But the existence of God drastically reduces the realm of the impossible.
     
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    Yep, over 500 of them.
     
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    I hate to use this analogy for its inflammatory nature, but people are willing to fly airplanes into buildings and strap bombs to themselves because of what they believe. Being willing to be a martyr to a cause or a belief doesn't make the cause correct or just.
     
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    There have been thousands who've been abducted by aliens and lived to tell the tale. Another inflammatory analogy, I know.

    One has to suspend belief to believe, so to speak.
     
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    Man oh man. Sure those people had beliefs. But nobody that I know of has done that for a belief they know for a fact to be wrong. The apostles were in that position.
     
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    Your point was since they were willing to die for their beliefs or be tortured for them, it gave their view more credibility, correct?
     
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    Yes, and your point did nothing to disprove that. You said you know people who die for their beliefs. How many of those people died for beliefs they knew for a fact to be wrong?
     

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