Future Panthers QB on ESPN tonight?

Much as I hate to open this can of worms I don't think that putting anything on Fasani is prudent right now. Let him develop, let him fight, but he's earned nothing. We need a vet and a rookie, and whatever we get out of Fasani is gravy.

 

Agree on Dorsey - he wouldn't make a bad third rounder ATP. I really didn't like the guy much at all as little as a couple of months ago, but he makes plays and could be ok in the pros. He can run a pro offense too. His arm is in the descent range and he knows how to read defenses. Still he reminds me A LOT of Steve Walsh which really scares me. Still in the 3rd he justifies the risk.

 

Berrian hasn't played since Week 1 vs. Wisconsin, and is redshirting this year. He has promised to come back to play at Fresno State in 2003 for his senior year and then enter the 2004 draft.

Berrian is an exceptional kick returner, but needs serious work on his conditioning (needs bulk and strength--not wind) and his routes need some polishing. He's got good hands, and has NFL breakaway speed. He'd be a fabulous #2 WR in the NFL, but not what I would call a possession receiver.

 

I came from the other side of it. Really liked his pedigree, his ability, his accuracy, but his arm looks only average. Still, his ability to throw within 20 on a tight and hard spiral is very intriguing, because the deep stuff, some people like to float anyway. You just gotta be smart enough to know never to do that with a safety over top.

And that's where he comes into play a little better. He's a game manager, which is what we seem to want. I'd rather have a playmaker so as to put someone in the driver's seat instead of relying solely on the Henning strategy. Ragone, as well, fits into that accurate, game manager type quarterback.

Wuerffel, with more size, is a better comparison, but even that's an unfairl comparison. Not unlike equating Jeff Lewis to Fasani.

 

I would agree there. Dorsey has more arm than Woeful though.
I think best case for Dorsey you'd be hoping for a Rich Gannon type. A guy who can work the ball around but who you don't want throwing 30-40 yrd out patterns all day. Actually in the NFL short passing game, Dorsey might work quite well. If the Panthers don't look QB in round 1 Dorsey would look good in round 2 or 3. Agree with mVm here.

The only thing that would worry me is that Dorsey has faced very little adversity ATP. How will he react when he is getting hit by blitzers early in a game. He hasn't had to worry about that - AT ALL - really.

 

Especially when that gravy is served with the main course. I agree with you, I just disagree with the general philosphy that we need to pick a "Franchise QB" with our first pick next year. The problem with this town is as soon as we do pick a Franchise QB the media and the fans will not stop until he is forced to play to soon.

I'd rather see us improve the O line - more, add real depth at WR and RB, get 2 Vets in here at QB and let Fasani fall where he may.

 

Damn Sandy, you sound like me....two years ago.

The main problem with getting the kind of vet your talking about, Sandy, is the list of FA right now.

Not too appealing.

We need a vet, but if you are looking for a quality vet starter with not too much age, well, Jake Plummer is about it. Even if a guy like Brunnell gets cut, that doesn't really make me horny, baby.

 

Ah, being the eternal optimist, I'd like to think a few more guys may pop in there. (I still think that rarely used guy in Dallas may be worth a spot in there.) There seem like a few other budding backups out there that could be available. Mix them with the Vet find...

 

Plummer, King I guess. If we had to go with a second vet, there's always whatever gets cut from Cincy...haha. Sorry. No, don't think we can afford two vets, especially since long term we'd be no better. Even if Plummer was going to be our long term guy, which wouldn't be terrible - but isn't the way to go IMO. Even should we go with Plummer, I'd rather have a young guy - in that case I'd be more apt to get a guy like Boller - than another vet behind him. Inevitably, there'd be a time where we'd be looking for a young guy to start.

Anyway, unless a Brad Johnson type journeyman with winning history came available (and unfortunately, that does set me up to have to think about Testaverde...dammit), we're looking for a guy who needs a second chance to at least buy us time. You hope to get a year, maybe year and a half out of a guy like King, in which you hope to be competitive and give time to a young guy

If Fasani's worth keeping on this team, he's a long shot to be an able starter in the next couple of years. This team wants efficient, mistakefree football and we won't get that posting 0.0 QB ratings. If, one day, he's good enough to start, it's because he'd earned it rather than that there was no one else available.

We need a young guy in. If we're going to wait two years to have a young, able QB I'd rather it be someone with a good pedigree, a good long college career, experience, and steadiness to go with playmaking ability.

We don't need a first round guy, IMO - of the top three or four QBs there's always one guy who fits what you want better than the others, which is part of the mixed success rate of first round QBs - but we do need a guy to base our future on. It's very risky, at best, and destructive at worst, to wait two years to see if Fasani's the guy without him beating another QB out. He's owed nothing.

 

You'll have to help me with this salary stuff, but how could we afford a first round QB and a Vet, compared to two Vets, one ready to play, and one like you said, looking for another go at it...