FOX. BALL.

That's what I was about to say. Hurney is the GM, Foxy just coached whoever he had...and last season he didn't have much.

 

As the HC i should hope bloody well so.

He didnt do it in all the other years, what makes you think it was gonna change in the final one. Marty i imagine forced the issue because he knew Fox was gone, which was a mistake because that decision should be made by the new staff with its new ideas.

 

no surprise here with rushing... but didn't see the total yards on the season avg. 316

 

Hell, I'd trade Hurney for syphilis

 

I am not sure how that power triangle worked behind the scenes but I suspect Fox never had complete control or the ability to make decisions such as which QB to acquire in free agency or which one to draft. Lately I have started thinking JR is a lot more hands on that anyone suspected.

I think Fox did a good job with the hand he was dealt at QB. How much input he had on picking the cards we will probably never know.

 

You're insane. Again, Denver is not winning because of Fox. I've already shown the stats about how utterly shitty their offensive play-calling has been, and they're a pretty bad defense as well. When they win, it's because Tim Tebow and Demaryius Thomas on offense or Von Miller and Elvis Dumervil did something on defense. Fox is a solid coach, but way too conservative. He never would have hired Chudzinski, much less let him run such an aggressive offense.

Yeah, he would have, but I think Fox might have just kept sticking with Delhomme. It certainly appeared that he had strong personnel input until the last two seasons. I'd bet money that dumping Orton for Tebow was something he was told to do, not something he wanted. And he was told to do it because the front office thought they could see that Tebow would suck and they'd be in the race for Luck.

 

you beat the steelers in the playoffs ... you're a f'ing God.

 

most all of the reports from day one suggested Fox wanted enough to get by at QB and had no stomach for the mistakes of a young QB, which is probably in part why Hurney worked so hard to get him a couple there at the end and make him smile through it.

Fox is a good coach, but in reality not a great one. He hasn't even done that much good in controlling whatever current toady he's got running his defense. Whether he does well in that fairly weak conference (and the other teams are doing their part to pave the way), I'm sure he will, but he did his part to earn an exit.

He's not a terrible coach. But he had his run here. He had nine years to make it, built his resume and gave us some good times. But you can't sit there and look back and wonder what if. We used up "what if".

 

He'd never have picked Newton, and he'd never have had the staff to get Newton to do what he did (which was a lot more than Tebow did singularly). We might've picked up a Hasselbeck, Davidson would still be pounding out our backs' necks, and we'd have Dante Rosario instead of Olsen/Shockey.

So we'd be here arguing about being 7-9 again, having Clausen apologists versus people who default on Hasselbeck, with no discernable future in sight outside of our remarkably average defense featuring Von Miller, what we currently have, shit at DT and coverage issues still. It wouldn't have been magical, but we'd be happy about Miller and dreading next summer's QB battle.

 

JR hired Fox because he wanted that style. He fired Fox because he wanted the opposite style. And in light of his recent comments, we shouldn't assume that JR doesn't have a Jerry Jones-like hand over his football team.