For those doubting Bunting...

So tell me. How do you think Bob Stoops would do LONG TERM at Wyoming? Or SMU? What about at Tulsa instead of Oklahoma?

Some schools have limitations Larry. I simply don't know how to drill that home any better but I'll be back to take a try in a while.

 

There's a little exercise I do at the beginning of every season to help with gambling. At the beginning of each year, I go through and pick out all the teams I call "major league". These are the cream of the crop. Usually around 20 teams. 25 tops. Then I choose the next third - "AAA". Then the next third. Write em all down. For my purposes, the point is to try and identify which teams are which because I like to bet on teams that are in a class above their opponent. Sounds cheesy I know. But it helps.

Do it for yourself. Don't take my word for it. Pick out the teams that YOU think belong in each category.

Now...
Go through and look at how many times the teams that you put in the "AAA" category have 9 wins in - say - the last 10 years. Look at how hard it is for those teams to STAY at the level you are talking about. The numbers don't lie. And the numbers are most likely going to tell you that very few teams win 9 year in/year out.

One last thing about FSU. I wonder how hard it would have been for Bowden to do what he did at FSU in a cold weather state. Y'know, one like - say - West Virginia? You think he'd be as successful if he had stayed there for the last 25 years? Eastern kids in the 70's and 80's wanted to play for Penn State, not WVU.

 

Except UNC has some of the best overall facilities in the country. That weight room rivals Nebraska's, which has long been the standard. They don't have a 100,000 seat stadium, but they don't need one for the revenue either. And have you been to Chapel Hill - the sights are pretty good too. And it also happens to be a good school, for the one or two recruits every year who actually might care. Dooley and Mack proved you could bring recuits there - and that was BEFORE they upgraded the facilities.

 

I guess I'm kind of between you and Larry, VP.

I'm sorry, but I feel you guys will never reach the 9 win all the time level. You have no history to suggest otherwise. If it makes you feel any better, I think my OWN school belongs in the "happy with 9-10 wins every once in a while" category too. Especially now that we are joining the ACC. We are never going to be Oklahoma, USC, FSU, Miami, etc. Never. Not every year anyway. You aren't either. I'll be happy to get 9 wins whenever I can take them from now on. No more of this three hard games and a bunch of chippies bullshit like we had in the Big East all those years.

On the flipside, I don't think it's nearly as easy as Larry is making it out to be either. To get over the top it requires WAY more than hiring the "Right guy". That is pretty much all I am trying to say to him. It's real easy to think that if you are a fan of a big power. I've spent my life watching and rooting for the WVU's, UVA's and VT's of the world though. It pretty much runs in cycles for them. If you get a special player like a Major Harris (WVU '88) or a Vick then you can play with the big boys for a year or two while you have that special player. After that? It's hello Gator Bowl.

That's why I mentioned Stoops at shit schools. 3 years at any of the schools I mentioned and Stoops is gone. Why? Cause even Stoops knows that there are only a handful of destination schools that get whoever they want when recruiting. Oklahoma is one of them. Y'know, the rich gets richer like I said before.

 

Today's times are a lot different than when he started down in FSUland! Just in the past 5 years things have changed a lot.

 

you comparing the resources of a wyoming, smu or tulsa to what UNC can offer? you kidding?

 

One other thing I forgot. Am I particularly happy over my school's (and others) place in college football? No. Not really. But the playing field - even by being leveled somewhat through the expose/scholarship issue I mentioned before - is never going to be level. Some schools are going to remain the cream. Others should get their Gator Bowl tickets and a time share in Jacksonville.

 

No. Just trying to make a point about coaches Larry. Even if UNC gets their dream coach like you seem to magically think they can get - he's leaving someday. No ifs, ands, or buts. Because some better program with better resources will take him in a heartbeat. I fel the ONLY reason Beamer is still the coach at VT is because he's an alum.

But let's try it this way then. Since you have all the answers...

Who do you think UNC should get as their coach?

Edit: I was also trying to make a point about the pecking order in the NCAA. No, those schools aren't as high as UNC -and never will be either - but you still never answered the question about what you think about Stoops being the coach there. It is not, nor ever will be for mid or lower schools, as simple as getting a coach to come in like you think it is.

 

mack brown had unc consistently winning games -- without one "saviour" player.

1997 -- 11-1
1996 -- 10-2
1995 -- 7-5
1994 -- 8-4
1993 -- 10-3
1992 -- 9-3


that's the level they should be at.

 

And where is Mack now? At a program higher up the pecking order in college football.

Y'know, EXACTLY where I said a good coach at UNC would end up someday.

Why? Because the big boys cannibalize the little guys. Always have. Always will.

So who should UNC hire?