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Discussion in 'Religion & Spirituality Forum' started by LarryD, Mar 3, 2008.

  1. vpkozel

    vpkozel Professional Calvinballer

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    I said everything has a cause, not everything is a natural phenomenon. Or finite.
     
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    If something is caused, then there was a time, previous to that causal moment, when it did not exist. Which renders it finite. That is entirely natural. Thus, if your god was caused to exist, by definition it is finite and natural.
     
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    What caused God?
     
  4. Superfluous_Nut

    Superfluous_Nut pastor of muppets

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    does every cause have to have an effect?

    why is it that people can project time infinitely into the future but not infinitely into the past?
     
  5. Superfluous_Nut

    Superfluous_Nut pastor of muppets

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    it's a useless explanation, tho -- at least, for the question being posed.
     
  6. tharan000

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    Yes, it is definitional.

    Humans cannot actually project infinities, even imaginary ones. We do have a word for it though, and humans can utilize that word in the parameters of their language. It is not the same thing as comprehending a true infinity, which is not physically possible.
     
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    Superfluous_Nut pastor of muppets

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    i just think it's interesting that as a concept, people seem to have a pretty easy time accepting that something might go on forever, but they have difficulty with the idea that something has been going on forever. i'm sure it's rooted in the reality of cause and effect.
     

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