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Discussion in 'Religion & Spirituality Forum' started by LarryD, Mar 3, 2008.

  1. tharan000

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    Again, mind if I see some of this evidence you and Golden Hammer allegedly have hidden away?
     
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    Not possible. Religion ( or specifically, a creator) is a hypothesis for the existence of the universe. The accelerated expansion of the universe points to a singularity with regard to the universes existence. Since a creator is a valid hypothesis, it can't be discarded as an explanation.




    EDIT: Still waiting for you to re-post where ANYONE on this board said they had undeniable proof of God. (I'll make it easy...just admit you were twisting others words to it fit your argument, and we'll drop it altogether)
     
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    An interesting discussion of atheism/theism and science:

    http://www.doesgodexist.org/Pamphlets/Mansproof.html



    "There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
    Herbert Spencer
     
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    It has already been provided in spades. Quit being lazy.
     
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    Must have missed it amidst all your namecalling.
     
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    slydevl Asshole for the People!

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    It wasn't posted in the politics forum.
     
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    I saw one of you try to sneak this in earlier, so let me just clear it up: evidence of "events in the Bible" is not even close to the same thing as evidence for your god.
     
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    Wrong. Category error. Single-point beginnings and endings are illusions.

    The rest of your "manifesto" is deciding between two illogical statements. Keep trying.
     
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    Seems to me your beef is with an overwhelming majority of physisists not GH. They all mostly agree the universe had a single point of origin and the catalyst for that origin lies outside of the boundaries of this universe as well as its time.
     
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    If you believe that is a category error; that the assumption that we either have a beginning or we don't is incorrect, then Sly is right. You need to take it up with physicists, astronomers and philosophers.
    You believe there is a third option there, and if you'd care to elaborate, I'm sure it'd be worth its own thread, but I tend to agree with the majority of the experts that the assumption that we either have a beginning or we don't is logical.

    My manifesto?? You have proven one thing in this thread.....you definitely need a dictionary.
    www.dictionary.com
     

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