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Do atheists have souls?

Discussion in 'Religion & Spirituality Forum' started by slydevl, Mar 24, 2004.

  1. slydevl

    slydevl Asshole for the People!

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    My point was Christ took humorous shots at people often in the Gospels.

    "It is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to their dogs."
     
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    hasbeen99 Fighting the stereotype

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    I don't understand the relevance of that verse to this discussion. :thinking:


    I apologize for coming across as superior, Sly. That was not my intent. I definitely have my logs and my thorns that I have to deal with. I see this role as moderator is presenting a new one I'm going to have to be very careful with.

    I did not say what I said to question your faith. Who am I to do so? But I do maintain that taking humor at the expense of others -- especially those who have been long ridiculed by other Christians -- is not Christlike . If you'd like to debate that, we can.
     
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    Do you really think that comment made toward the Gentile woman begging for healing for her daughter was a joke? If so, I respectfully disagree. :)
     
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    slydevl Asshole for the People!

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    I didn't post either of those about you hasbeens. I posted them to illustrate that rebuke -- humorous, gently, and not so gentle -- was a cornerstone of Christ's ministry.
     
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    slydevl Asshole for the People!

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    I read it as a humorous rebuke to his apostles. Calling a person a dog was a huge insult in Christ's day and that statement far exceeded was was required under the circumstances.
     
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    Okay, I see where you're coming from now. I still disagree on that verse, but I'd agree on the verse that cites Jesus telling the apostles not to cast pearls before swine. Now that's a shot.
     
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    slydevl Asshole for the People!

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    i look at that vs like this:

    The apostles didn't think the gentile woman or her daughter were worthly of Jesus's time. In his quote he is the bread and the gentile woman's daughter the dog. A huge exaggeration IMO, that i think served to rebuke the apostles for their trying to deny someone access to Christ. I also think Christ may have been making a double entendre in that he used dogs plural and may have also been comparing them to the apostles.
     
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    Wow. I never looked at it that way, but it definitely fits the character of the apostles. To be honest, that exchange has always stuck in my craw, but Imma have to take another hard look at it -- I think you're right. I'll post later on this...
     
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    Actually the "Eye of a needle" refers to small gates in the walls of cities during that time. A rich man would have to unload his camel and walk it through with great difficulty. Its not as impossible as it sounds thinking about a sewing needle.

    http://atp-corp.com/Story of.html
     
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    Saved from what?
     

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