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Discussion in 'Carolina Panthers' started by SandMan, Dec 30, 2002.

  1. HeadCase

    HeadCase Guest

    >> Weinke makes one read now days. I still have the Minnesota game, and a few others, on tape. I mean, he was still highly flawed then, but he went through a proggression. He's either forgotten how to play quaterback, too scared, or is trying to ensure he gets cut. In so doing, he's going to have a hard time getting on someone's roster now.

    I was wondering about the same thing today. 'Bout conceded that Seifert and Co. were better with the offense. But I wonder if it's just that other teams figured out that once Weinke looks to his right he ain't coming back to his left (not that he can throw in that direction anyway). And I think that could have been the case last year too -- just took a few games for teams to figure him out.

    Was weird how the Saints were releasing our receivers behind them. Wonder if teams have been doing that to us all year and our QBs just can't see them. Were they releasing the guy deep left when the rush had the QB flushed right? Or were they merely reading the QBs eyes? I couldn't tell.

    >> We still need more recievers. Yes, we have guys that can dominate vs the scrubby secondaries of Cinci, the Saints, and the Lions. To do it vs Atlanta and Tampa is going to take some doing.

    Think Moose and Smith are okay but we definately need someone to team with them along with a legit TE. I don't think Wiggin is the answer. We also need depth at WR -- scary when Moose or Smith have to sit out a play much less a game or two.
     
  2. SandMan

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    Not yesterday. Replay the game tape of the Fox announcers. In case you missed it during the actual play, they are quick to point it out to you, they even replay it for you.

    Fasani did not play yesterday. But it was obvious, Winky did not read through any progressions, and Peete barely looked left and right in the same play.
     
  3. Piper

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    It helps to read, Sandy.

    We were talking about last year, and the difference between then and now.

    Or do you just glance at keywords
     
  4. SandMan

    SandMan Guest

    keywords... I did not check to see that the thread had made its way off topic. But yea, keywords, I'm a top level kind of guy... a big picture guy if you will... ;)
     
  5. McFly41

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    Let's put Fasami in perspective, as a college player he was pretty damn good. I'll put this out there and see what you all have to say, but maybe he has not adjusted to the speed of the Pro game yet?
    Send him to Europe and see how he plays there. Granted, it's no indication of how he'd do here next year, but it does give him reps and maybe he'll show the improvment the staff needs to see.
     
  6. Piper

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    Note to Sandy. Now we are talking about Fasani. Pay attention, don't want you to get lost.

    Yes, Europe for Fasani.

    He only played 7 games in college, he was never "the guy," due to injuries.
     
  7. meatpile

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    Yeah, I REALLY hope Fasani goes to Europe.

    I kinda actually doubt he'd start there. Which sucks.

    But I'd watch NFL Europe this year, at least.
     
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    No shit?

    Thank you, Piper, for giving Sandy a bouncing ball to follow. Yes, I meant last year and thought that being fairly clear.

    I wouldn't say that Fasani hasn't adjusted to the speed of the pro game, McFly, because he's fundamentally behind in a lot of ways thanks to his very limited game time and before that practice time. The speed of the game might be overwhelming, and he's overthinking, but that happens to most guys anyway.
     
  9. SandMan

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    As Mags points out, Fasani's limited game time and practice time is a factor. I've been high on this guy all along, at least when he has Winky in front of him. I'd still start him over Winky any day, any game. I actually think that if the kid was playing against an average defense, which we had several of those this year, that if he could not get us in too much trouble the first half, he might just settle down by the 4th qtr and display his talents.

    But no, for the record, he was not ready to be an NFL starter last season. (the one we just finished)

    I'm not sure what Europe would do for him? Other than get him out of the NFL... He would have more to gain being a back up here than there, IMO...
     
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  10. Piper

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    Out of the NFL???????


    You do realize NFL Europe is played in the Spring, and is an extention of the NFL, not an independent org?

    The idea is to get him snapsl, which he desperately needs if we even want to think about having him on the team next season. And maybe some exposure to a coach who won't fuck him up.
     

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