Creationist Wolf in Cheap Clothing

HardHarry, I understand why you and so many others would be frustrated with slydevyl's stubbornness, but that isn't helping.

 

From your article:

"It shows us there wasn't a nice steady progression from ancient hominids to what we are today," he told BBC News Online.

So despite all the false starts, failed experiments and ultimate winners produced by evolution, the evidence for what went on between 10 and five million years ago is very scarce.

There will be plenty of debate about where the Chad skull fits into the incomplete and sketchy picture researchers have drawn for the origins of the human species.

Sahelanthropus tchadensis, as the find has been named, may turn out to be a direct human ancestor or it may prove to be a member of a side branch of our family tree.

and from the sublink:

The modern features seen in Toumai could also indicate that he (the specimen is probably male) has a more direct line of ascent to modern humans than all of the various African "ape-men" from between five and two million years ago, discovered over the past 70 years or so.

To some extent, what Toumai does is further complicate an already murky picture of human origins. Many of those scientists who have so far commented on the discovery say it supports a theory of hominid evolution that has many branches - and many dead ends.

 

Wow that is quite the backpedal considering 10 to 15 posts ago it was the missing link.

 

Of course it doesn't help. Sly's entire M.O. is to attack supposed gaps (real or imagined is of no consequence) to invalidate evolution, because it scares the hell out of him (literally - evolution=no god, and therefore no hell, to Sly).

This offensive strategy of his is for one purpose - to shift the topic of discussion away from the flaws in his own theory, just a few of which I posted above. He will never, ever discuss/validate ID or Creationism the way he expects, no demands you and everyone else to validate evolution.

It's psychological warfare for him. He's got to win this debate or God dies. It's an amazing little piece of individual psychosis.

 

What you think you know about me could not be more incorrect.

P.S. I don't even know that I believe in Hell.

 

Evolution doesn't rule out the possibility of a creator, no, but it does prove that the world changes based on natural laws and that we haven't remained the same static species ever since the universe came into being. And as for "the link," there never was any "missing link." We have never had any gaps in our fossil record, only limitations on how far back we could go. That line has continued to be pushed back. But sure, you're right, I should have said that we may have found the common ancestor, as some paleoanthropologists view tchadensis as that common ancestor and some view it as part of a separate line.


slydevyl:
There wasn't a steady progression. We have fits and starts, as that's how evolution works (re: punctuated equilibrium). We also have multiple lines. We're absolutely sure about the species progression in the homo line and late australopithecines, but everything before that is subject to interpretation. We have all the fossils and all the species, it's ordering and connecting them that people argue over.

And yes, the evidence between 10 million and 5 million years is scarce. I already said exactly that, so try to keep up. We don't have any "missing links," only limitations on how far back we've gone. We've been at around 5 million this decade, and we keep pushing backwards with new finds.\


Also, does "Remember, Carolina Blue is just past tense for Carolina Blows " mean you went to State? If so, that would explain a lot. :supergrin

 

Says the guy making the desperate full frontal assault on evolution.

 

None of which is inconsistent with ID. That is what most people either don't get or refuse to see, because it makes it harder to dismiss anyone who believes in ID as a nutjob the way HardHarry does.

 

to me these are contradictory statements

 

Quote, links?

'preesh

ID is not science. I've said it several times and will continue to.

Anyway, back to defending Intelligent Design...

Oh wait, that never happens here.