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Creationist Wolf in Cheap Clothing

Discussion in 'Religion & Spirituality Forum' started by El Bastardo, Aug 6, 2005.

  1. hasbeen99

    hasbeen99 Fighting the stereotype

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    Good point. Moses was educated under Pharoah.

    Invade Turkey!
     
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    Where were you for my "Who wrote the Bible thread"?

    (pst, you have to show your Marxist card to see it).
     
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    Yes, it is beyond the realm of possibility. That's not how stratigraphy works. There have been periodic floods in the history of the world, but the mess along the Gulf Coast was probably about as large as it ever gets. Even "regional floods" generally only cover the space of a few hundred square miles, which is huge if you think about it, but not exactly a biblical deluge.


    Nah, it's much easier to say that for you to reach any other conclusion:
    1. You can make up any solution you want, even if it has no confirmation in the Bible or anywhere else.


    No, it doesn't, and that's a part of the Bible I have absolutely no respect for anyway.


    Except for the fact that it would make God a liar, if you insist on making the story a literal truth. The Bible doesn't say that God told Noah he was going to flood just that region.



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    That's a boring argument to me anyway. I don't know why people have a problem with the idea that there were multiple authors. A) It's obvious to anyone who has ever authored anything, just because of stylistic differences and other characteristics that stand out. B) Many parts are actually repeated with slightly different wording, accounts, etc. C) It was originally passed down as an oral history, so of course different people are going to record different versions as they have changed over time.
     
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    Are you aware of how the Mediterranian Sea was formed?
     
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    More or less. The Eurasian and African plates collided, rubbed, and eventually separated. It wasn't formed via a flood, but rather an influx of water from the Atlantic through what is now known as the Strait of Gibraltar, first forming a farly significant body of water about 200 million years ago.
     
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    Okay, but what about the latter half of my premise? Could the evidence possibly have concentrated in the lower elevations to appear as regional floods?

    Uncomfortable to be told what you believe, isn't it? And again, I'm not saying I believe anything is rock-solid literal or beyond questioning in the Biblical account of the flood. I'm saying I believe it's possible, not absolutely clear cut black and white.

    Of course not. If there is no God, there's no judgment.


    That's what Moses wrote. Doesn't necessarily make God a liar. There's a possibility Moses misunderstood what God told him. I'm not saying that's for sure what happened, but it's a possibility. It might have even been a misinterpretation in translation from Hebrew to English. I haven't done a word study on it yet, so I haven't ruled out that possibility either.
     
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    No, I didn't. Moses wrote the account, not Noah, therefore the interpretation of Moses would be the strongest influence in the written account.
     
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    An influx of water from an ocean wouldn't be considered a flood? :thinking:
     
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    And the influx of all that water when The Atlantic busted through couldn't be classified as a flood? C'mon man, that's crazy talk.
     
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