Creationist Wolf in Cheap Clothing

Did you miss the part where I said I didn't necessarily think that there were miracles and they were just left out? Most people here are not trying to say that there was a worldwide flood or that the Bible is a science book.

Dial it back.

 

David and Goliath was physically possible, while it did mention that Sampson's strength was derived from God. But those were almost certainly parables as well, although again we can't say how much is based on an actual event. I don't have the Bible memorized, so I can't say for sure that there were miracles implied that weren't directly attributed to God or God's power, but I don't recall any off the top of my head. Moreover, you've already stated that you understand the flood story to be allegorical anyway.



vpkozel:
Did you miss the part where I said that most Christians understand that the flood story is a parable? I'm not criticizing Christians at all, I'm just pointing out how hasbeen99's attempted explanation falls short.

 

And there absolutely are no such finds?

Who said Noah had any power?

 

Noah's instructions were to build the ark per the dimensions God gave him, to receive the animals as they came to him, and load food and his family on the ark. None of that (except perhaps building of the ark itself) is really extraordinary. The overlying tone of the whole chapter (Gen 6) is that God was in control of the whole situation (as is reflected throughout the Bible).

Look, I'm not saying I believe that the global flood as it's literally written in the Bible is the only true interpretation of what happened. What I'm saying is that I believe there's a possibility that it could have happened. When you bring God into the equation, those kinds of things can happen. I don't know for sure, because I haven't seen enough scientific evidence to convince me one way or the other. You might say I'm a "Noah's flood agnostic" in that regard.

 

Why on earth would you 'appreciate and respect' something you obviously believe is no better than a collection of Grimm fairy tales?

 

Thank you.

 

Hey, I appreciate and respect the Hell out of Grimm's fairy tales. Most of them are allegorical anyway.

 

Not necessarily. There are miracles cited in the Bible that are recounted very matter-of-factly -- some so subtle that if the reader isn't paying close attention, he could easily blow right past one.

 

Sure, but Grimm's fairy tales don't pretend to be anything more than fairy tales. The Bible presents itself in a very different way -- defiantly even. In parts, it really throws down the gauntlet -- you either accept this or suffer the consequences. Hansel and Gretel, not so much.

 

No fair you get to post this and delete my Faith comment.