Creationist Wolf in Cheap Clothing

"Their" God? It's not like I'm a Methodist. Or one of them heathen Episcopalians.

I just want the miracles taught in Sunday School and not during 3rd period of the school day.

 

Fornicate off.

 

There are always clear geological signs of any significant flood, mostly in terms of uniform deposits of sediments. Floods and volcanic activity are probably the easiest things to spot in any stratified soil sample.

And gee whiz, I didn't realize that Noah had the power to create miracles. Here I thought that Jesus' miracles were special because he was ... well ... Jesus. Now, thanks to you, I know that miracles can happen anywhere just so long as they fill in gaps in any literal interpretation of the Bible.

 

Dude. We get your point. You don't believe in any of this. Lay off the sarcasm. That's not what this place is for.

 

No, I was making the point that the Bible doesn't even portray Noah's actions as miraculous. They're supposed to be considered natural and human, that's what the parable is all about. In that sense, apparently I know the Bible better than hasbeen99 does.

And just to be clear on personal stances, I don't have faith in any supernatural being, but I was raised on the Bible, and I appreciate and respect it. I just don't like it when people manipulate anything to avoid having to think.

 

Yeah, because Moses didn't work any miracles, or the disciples. Kinda hard to criticize something you only apparently have a passing knowledge of.

 

Hasbeens didn't claim Noah performed the miracle. God performed the miracle. Noah was his instrument.

 

Where did hasbeens attribute any miracles to Noah? All he was saying was that God has worked miracles in the past, s maybe he worked one to get all the animals in the ark.

I'm not saying that I agree with that, I'm just saying take it back a notch. This place is not really about trying to win a debate - it is about sharing ideas and working them out through your head. A premise, which I might add, you have shown that you are capable of doing in Nut's intellegence thread.

 

Dude, I've read every book of the Bible at least twice, and most parts more than that. I've specifically studied Genesis both on a content-basis and as part of the JEDP hypothesis. The Noah story is essentially about human obedience to God, and the protection it provides from his divine wrath. Noah was not Moses, nor Jesus, nor any sort of miracle worker. If he were a miracle worker, the entire point of the story would change.


vpkozel:
The flood didn't happen. Moreover, the Bible makes no mention of God performing miracles in the flood to help Noah out. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Bible does tend to point out miracles when they're supposed to have occured, correct? But this is the one case where it doesn't just so that we can justify something that was a story taken from an entirely separate culture and religion because it was meant to teach a lesson, yet not to be taken literally?

 

I'm not so sure. If you look at David and goliath and Sampson. those are cases where humans did incredible things with the help of God yet it doesn't dwell on the fact that those were miracles. Those are just two examples that sprang to mind. I'm sure there are many others. Jericho....Gideon's improbable victories.....