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Can a person have morals

Discussion in 'Religion & Spirituality Forum' started by articulatekitten, Aug 7, 2005.

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  1. Aug 8, 2005 at 11:39 PM #41
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    No, all morals must be bought from the Farting Preacher
     
  2. Aug 9, 2005 at 5:03 AM #42
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    yes, but as people age, they change. children aren't interested in sex and yet they become interested at a certain point. nobody needs to teach them who they should be attracted to. nobody sat me down and explained how i should get an erection when i see certain things.

    i noticed about 10 years ago, i suddenly had a major aversion to blood. i used to watch those medical shows all the time when i was younger, but now i really cringe when i see people in pain or bleeding. was that learned or a decision i made, or was it natural? i have no idea.
     
  3. Aug 9, 2005 at 7:50 AM #43
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    Morality is societal not religous
    The two are distinct


    Ethics and virtue are sub categories of Morality.


    Further reading: Nietzsche:On the genealogy of morals

    or try
    Kant

    Morality is a product of social abreaction
    Religion is a product of intense social change

    Religion is political in nature. which is why religious reformation only occurs in intensely troubled times.
     
  4. Aug 9, 2005 at 9:44 AM #44
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    So you think children become moral as they age? At puberty they start to develop morals regardless of whether they have been taught to them or not? The onset of sexuality can be explained by the body beginning to produce hormones. There is no hormone I am aware of for morality.
     
  5. Aug 9, 2005 at 9:57 AM #45
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    He's a real pissant and is very rarely stable.
     
  6. Aug 9, 2005 at 10:12 AM #46
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    Prehaps when religion gets so bad as to need a reformation then it is the cause of the political troubles you describe. I do not believe God will allow his religion to stray too far before he forces a correction.
     
  7. Aug 9, 2005 at 10:29 AM #47
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    A debate on morality has to exclude religion in the first instances.

    You cannot seriously debate morality then cloud the waters with religion.


    Morality is a construct of society.

    Religion is a political tool based on morality
     
  8. Aug 9, 2005 at 10:45 AM #48
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    There's nothing Nietzche couldn't teach ya 'Bout the raising of the wrist.
     
  9. Aug 9, 2005 at 10:57 AM #49
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    You state an opinion as if it is fact. I would argue that morality is an effect of religion.
     
  10. Aug 9, 2005 at 11:36 AM #50
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    No


    I am approaching it from philisophical viewpoint

    Your point of view is clouded by your adherance to religion
    Thus you will argue that morality is a constuct of religion

    Where in fact morality has nothing to do with religion

    Examine morality of differing cultures.

    Even within your own society morality differs from region to region, unless constrained by law.
     
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