Bonds Says 06 to be His Last

All steroids? No, but you're a complete and utter moron if you think that steroids only helped "a little." Before going on the juice, Bonds averaged one home run every 16.1 at-bats. Since juiced, he's averaged one home run every 8.5 at-bats. Obviously that's nearly twice the rate, so steroids have meant more than "a little." Even if we assume that Barry wouldn't have declined naturally like pretty much every other player in baseball history, a juiceless Bonds would have accumulated only 567 home runs at this point. That still makes him one of the greatest of all-time, but not even close to his current total.

 

After he was 35 is when he turned it on and got freaking gigantic. Anyone see pictures of him with the Giants in '95 or '96. He looks sooo skinny. Now his head is like a balloon

 

He can be as prolific a hitter as anyone, but personality wise, hes Collin's long lost twin. Retire already.


(Sorry for the cheap shot)

 

I'm a baseball fan alright, just not a naive one like you. You can actually see the transformation of the bodies of guys like Bonds, Sosa and McGuire and watch their offensive production increase at the same rate. Not to mention all the steroid related injuries that typically accompany the abuse of the drugs. These guys can all attribute a large percentage of their offensive pruduction to steroid use and that is not an overstatement.

Each one of their bodies showed the classics signs of HGH use and testosterone use going back many years... not to mention that Bonds actually admitted to taking them. Lets not forget that.

It is no shock that Sammy has lost a ton of weight and his production is in the shitter since the new testing policy. It is also no surprise that Bonds now cliams he wants to come back lighter and faster..you know why, because he can no longer take the testosterone that made him bloat.

I would assume Barry is still taking HGH since the league cannot test for it and it has apparently always been his drug of choice. It is what really made his jaw broaden and his neck so big.

Again, he is the biggest piece of shit in sports and his records should not be acknowledged..

 

Just in case you're interested, I learned from a lecture by a medical professional who has participated in muscle studies that HGH and testosterone don't produce the large muscle growth we associate with the players in question. Testosterone injections have some effect, while he claimed that studies showed HGH to have no significant effect at all. Instead the drugs they're using and the ones that have the dramatic physical effects are anabolic steroids.

 

I would disagree completely with this entire post. I have seen up close and personal the effect of testosterone and HGH. Also my father-in-law is a physician specializing in internal medicine and we have discussed this at length.

 

Whatever. I thought you might be interested in facts from actual clinical studies done on how these substances affect muscle mass, but clearly I was deluding myself. I'm sure your father-in-law knows more about it than people published in the NEJoM.

 

Out of fairness, you did not disclose that in your original statement. Therefore his source was as good as yours.

 

Short-term administration of supraphysiological recombinant human growth hormone (GH) does not increase maximum endurance exercise capacity in healthy, active young men and women with normal GH-insulin-like growth factor I axes.
Berggren A - J Clin Endocrinol Metab - 01-JUN-2005; 90(6): 3268-73



Abstract:
CONTEXT: Despite the fact that the use of GH as a doping agent in sports is widespread, little is known about its short-term effects. OBJECTIVE: The objective was to study the effects of GH on exercise capacity. DESIGN: A double-blind, placebo-controlled study was used, with a treatment period of 28 d. SETTING: Subjects from general community studied ambulatory at a university hospital. PARTICIPANTS: Thirty healthy active young normal volunteers (15 women and 15 men) were recruited by local announcement, and all completed the study. INTERVENTION: All subjects were randomized to receive a low GH dose (0.033 mg/kg.d or 0.1 IU/kg.d), a high GH dose (0.067 mg/kg.d or 0.2 IU/kg.d), or placebo. MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES: Power output and oxygen uptake on bicycle exercise were the main outcome measures. Results: We found no effect of the low or high dosages of GH on maximum oxygen uptake during exercise (mean +/- se for placebo, 45.2 +/- 1.6 to 45.2 +/- 2.1 ml/kg.min; GH low dose, 42.8 +/- 1.6 to 42.8 +/- 1.6 ml/kg.min; GH high dose, 44.8 +/- 3.4 to 44.8 +/- 2.2 ml/kg.min; not significant by two-way ANOVA). Neither was there any effect on maximum achieved power output during exercise or on blood pressure, heart rate, or the electrocardiographic ST level at rest or during exercise. GH significantly increased total body weight (P = 0.028), an effect predominantly ascribed to fluid retention (increased extracellular water volume), whereas muscle mass (as indicated by intracellular water volume) did not change. However, changes in the latter correlated to changes in physical performance, possibly due to different training efforts. CONCLUSION: Administration of supraphysiological recombinant human GH during a period of 4 wk does not improve power output or oxygen uptake.

 

Thats all I could find for now, as every study done by this Sweedish group involved short durations (<1 mo) and a poor N, in this case, 30 subjects.

Ill see if I can find more long term data tomorrow.

Note the comments about fluid retention. Bonds' face looks like a fucking watermelon.