Atheists

Well said.

:applause:

 

I guess by society in general that I basically meant peers and the law. Of course, the media plays such a big role in our society, that I think society might actually have a negative impact now that you've made me think about it. With all the stuff on CNN and the general pandering of primetime tv, then society probably lessens the morals of some people. I can see where weak-minded/weak-willed people could easily be influenced in either direction.

 

Agreed.

 

This whole thread is just sly's childish attempt to get back at me for saying that in general, the non-religious are more intelligent that the religious.

 

Nooooooooo!!!! You serious?

To be honest, it was a joke to start, but you provided more than enough evidence with your utter inability to picture God in anything other than physical terms.

 

I'll buy that......they are.....to intelligent for their own good....they've lost sight of faith and rely on what they can see and touch....I'd rather be dumb...

 

Hasbeens BRoke ALL the 10 Commandments?!

 

It's not human nature to bend rules, it's the animal nature to bend rules. You're 99% chimp. If you accept Christ you sublimate the chimp and accentuate the humanity. Shit most churches are more chimp than man, that is where the rub comes in often they do more harm to educated people than good. The raptor said near the end there will be no church it will be up to the righteous to carry on the traditions themselves, in essence churchs will be out moded. Don't remember the verse but christ speaks of praying in private, not making public displays of piety. While christians banded together for survival, christanity was never meant to be a group exercise, it was alway about the individual and his personal relationship with God. In many respects the church is a mismash of jewish, greek and roman traditions masqueradeing as Christanity. In the early centuries that was functional, however as bob jones U would say, the gospel is there you can read, educate yourself or burn.

 

I'll buy this too.....most churches are scary along with the wide eyed deacons and ministers in wait.....it all scares the shit out of me...I grew up in a scary church that bullied it's members into million dollar organs and escalators.....sick shit and ruined my idea of church.

I've found a school that holds church services. I enjoy it. No offering plate jammed in my face, no suits screaming at me and no robes singing opera....just a normal group of people wearing comfortable clothes interpreting the bible through visuals and music. Their is one main speaker and others that help using skits and videos teaching more of a living word that deals in the 21st century. The music consists of drums, guitars, bongos, keyboard and numerous singers. Coffee and donuts are provided before the service. Kids, young adults and old people hang out together eating donuts and drinking coffee, while interacting rather than being forced to shake hands after an awkward(SP and to tired to look it up) hymn. Anyway I'm still a sorry sack, but I'm learning to soften up. It's been a good experience so far.

 

I lost you when you changed from evolving from chimps to believing in God...

I figure animals act on instinct, and don't exactly follow rules, so they don't have any to bend.