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Atheism

Discussion in 'Religion & Spirituality Forum' started by Mortimer, Apr 24, 2007.

  1. slydevl

    slydevl Asshole for the People!

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    Lets say you could....wounds in hands, feet, and side. Miracles. Maybe something genetic dealing with the virgin birth. Hypothetically.
     
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    hasbeen99 Fighting the stereotype

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    Gravity is an obvious example with easily defined physical properties. The effects are so abundantly obvious that it would take someone in denial to argue against its existence. Because of that, the question of faith with regards to gravity is all but irrelevant. Now, as to the final point of your question -- whether it's our "natural place" to be at ground level -- that would be IMO where faith would play a larger role, if for no other reason than it's a less obvious conclusion from the available evidence.

    True, but like alternate conclusions on the reasons or sources of gravity, the existence of mankind (and everything else for that matter) is less clearly defined by the evidence. Some would argue against that statement, but those who would have already reached their conclusions without continuing to thoroughly consider all possibilities.
     
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    The silent motivator behind that, IMO, is fear. Fear of being wrong.
     
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    That would depend on how one defines "evidence".
     
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    Agreed.
     
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    Superfluous_Nut pastor of muppets

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    okay, let's say you exhaust all possible rational explanations and come to the conclusion that this person is indeed doing things that are scientifically unexplainable -- how do you know that it's not some ultra-advanced alien or even some other "god" being that's pretending to be jesus for their own purposes?
     
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    That's very cool. Good for you, man.
     
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    I logged in and chatted for a while at Internet Infidels. I was not very welcome. :worry-rose:
     
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    It certainly is a reasonable view that agnostism would be a natural state if one accepts the premise of magic/supernatural as reasonable.
     
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    The message was probably targeted to what the church commonly refers to as "seekers", which isn't uncommon for Easter services. You just weren't their target demographic. :59:
     

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