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Discussion in 'Religion & Spirituality Forum' started by sdplusbeauty, Jun 8, 2006.

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    Actually, in the vast majority of my prayer life I tend to focus on and address God the Father, while depending on the Holy Spirit to speak on my behalf (Romans 8:26). Often times, I don't have the words to communicate what I feel or want to say, and I lean into the Spirit to do that for me.

    "Tapping into" the Spirit to hear God's voice is something I'm still learning how to do more effectively. It's pretty hit-and-miss for me right now (more miss than hit). Since we began this discussion, I've actually started to consider looking into the rosary, to see if it's something I can use to grow closer to God and improve my ability to listen for Him and to Him.

    I totally and completely agree.

    We do. Or I should say, the Protestants who are faithful to the Bible do. However, I would guess that the heaviest emphasis is on Christ first, God the Father second, and the Holy Spirit a distant third. I get the feeling that Catholics probably acknowledge the Spirit far more often.

    Again, I totally and completely agree. The only idea I would add is that in Protestant practice, I think the assumption (for a lack of a better word) is that when we pray -- whether speaking or listening -- it is to the triune God simultaneously, not necessarily singling out one specific manifestation, although that does happen as I've pointed out in my own prayer life. There have been occasions when I have prayed to each -- Father, Son, and Holy Spirit -- individually, but that is not the norm for me.
     
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    Again, thank you. :)

    Substitute the word "communicate" with "dialogue" and add "as much as they should", and I'm in agreement.

    I totally agree. But I tend to think that to develop any relationship into something extraordinary, fervent desire is a requisite. I'll agree that some religious methods can increase the efficiency of that growth process when it comes to a relationship with God, but without the desire, all the religious practice in the world won't make that happen. Nothing can.

    I would not disagree. My relationship with God has been the only unwavering positive aspect of my entire life. That being the case, there is a definite hunger to draw ever closer to Him that has been frustrated in part by the physiological effects of my anxiety and depression. In other words, sometimes I have trouble hearing God through all the "noise" in my heart and mind.

    I've not been as dedicated to developing that aspect of my faith as I should have been, no. That is something I'm working on now, and for the reasons you cited.

    That was tactfully put. :wink2:

    But that contradiction is not exclusive to Protestants, is it? It could be said of many who would simply call themselves Christians, denomination or affiliation notwithstanding.

    I think we may differ on how we're using the word "receive" in this context. There is a difference between hearing a prayer, and accepting and acting on one. I was referring to just hearing it.
     
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    I totally agree. As someone who is fighting this three-headed monster, I concur with your first point that depression is as much a spiritual malady as it is a physiological one. It's not an "either/or", it's a "both/and".
     

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