AOL/Time Warner has put the Braves up for Sale

Don't use Chicago as a measuring stick. They have won 1 division title compared to the 14 of the Braves. The Sox WS win is great, but already they have dealt Aaron Rowand, Orlando Hernandez, and another player in off season trades. They have acquired Jim Thome (retread), and Javier Vazquez (decent but could be great with proper coaching) this off season, so no, they are not bringing back all of their players.

 

No that .ithink we Braves fan are sick and more then anyone that we see the Mets sign big FA make some good trade but at some time they make Very bad trade.They have to spend alt of cash do to the fact that they play in a big city and the Yankees.As a braves fan we don't want to Spend over 100Mill a year we don't want to become the yahkees.But at some time want our payroll to be high that we can sign our own FA and to sign top player or 2.Like 3years ago the Braves payroll was near 100Mill this year it going to be 75Mill the bottom line AOL don't care at all about Baseball or The Braves.We need someone that want to make alt of cash but at some time he want the braves to win and keep wining

 

Ugh. Stop being stupid, solarte. AOL has had absolutely nothing to do with the Braves winning, and has arguably made it a lot harder for them to keep doing so. Cox, Mazzone, Shuerholz, the players, et al have been responsible for the 14 straight NL East titles, and dukey isn't complaining about them. Seriously, you were just venting and said something dumb. It's ok, it happens to everyone, but there's no reason to dig yourself deeper by pretending it was a legitimate complaint. Just let it go.

Oh, and the White Sox are increasing their payroll significantly, so don't try to spin it like they're not bringing back players because they can't. Any players they have dealt were moved because they thought they were getting better players in return (who also happened to be more expensive than the ones they gave up).

 

Collin, leave my Sox alone. The Sox payroll increased because of the signing of Konerko (he was gonna get paid, and Reinsdorf has been notorious for NOT paying players). I never said anything about the Sox payroll increasing, because I know ithas grown already in the off-season.

As for the Braves, the front office has to work within the parameters set forth by ownership. Yes, Shuerholz (best GM in MLB IMO) was responsible, but that said, he was responsible under the guidelines set forth by ownership. They must have known what they were doing, not overspending on players, and still winning.

Oh, also, spending does not equal wins. See the Yankees of last season, the NY Rangers in the old NHL, and other teams in any sport with a hge payroll with nothing to show for it.

For the record, I didn't like shipping Rowand to Philly for Thome. I am ok with the Vazquez deal. Not thrilled, just ok.

 

Schuerholz has admitted repeatedly that he has been forced to make moves he didn't want to because of salary limits imposed by AOL. And hell, Bobby Cox has pretty much come out and called for new ownership at times because he doesn't like the way his players are forced out of town when they become too expensive. So yeah, Braves fans aren't the only ones excited about a potential change in management. Everyone is sick of AOL crippling the Braves, and it's astonishing that they've been able to stay successful in spite of all the payroll cuts forced upon them.

And as for the Sox, you're going to end up liking those moves. Unless Chris Young becomes a superstar (and I don't think he will), then you guys got a great deal with Vazquez who will give you plenty of innings and strikeouts. Meanwhile Roward regressed and Thome gives you a major upgrade at DH. Both of those moves significantly increased the team's payroll, but that's what World Series winning teams should do. I don't like the White Sox, but in light of Florida's mismanagement, I'm thrilled to see a championship team actually try to get even better. And take my word for it when I tell you that they most definitely did.

 

Well, I don't necessarily agree on Rowand. He was doing a lot of the little things that made him a better than average CF. I hate shipping him off, being somewhat young, and getting Thome, who, IMO, has seen his best days. The Vazquez deal has me in "wait and see," but I hope you are right.

May be time for the Sox to decide on Joe Borchard's future.

 

Rowand was a late bloomer, as he's already 28 years old, but he was a solid defensive center fielder. The problem is that he had poor plate discipline and low contact skills. With his power also declining, he just wasn't that valuable anymore since Podsednik can handle the duties in center. As for Borchard, he has all the talent in the world but it's probably already reached the point that he's never going to be much of a contributor.

 

Btw as you all know Andruw Jones is a FA at the end of the season and so is Marcus Giles And if AOl still own the braves by the time this season is over the Braves mitt not keep both Jones and Giles.If anyone think that the braves want to Trade Marte for Edgar Renteria your a dead worng.If the braves had someone that care about wining You would see the braves keep Furcal and Sign 2 or 3guys that can help our pen.Before you know it the Braves will become like the Fish and have to have a fire sell.our bullpen suck we don't have a closer and this is all do to FUCKING AOL

 

I thought he was 28, hence somewhat young...I really liked him though...but, as you also said earlier, they aren't resting on their laurels, they are trying to improve and remain competitive.....of course, as you know, injuries can ruin the best laid plans. :crossingfingerthingie:

 

True, also the Indians and Twins are getting better as well, so the Central could arguably be the toughest division in the Americal League next year. I really like what Minnesota did in acquiring Luis Castillo, who I think will end up making the All-Star team in the A.L. Then Cleveland has a lot of young talent that should continue to emerge, so the White Sox were forced to keep upgrading. LF is still a major question mark (I wonder if they envision Mackowiak as an every day player), Dye's health is a concern, and Garland is almost sure to fall back from this season's performance, but the acquisitions they made should keep them competitive for not only the top spot in the Central but in the majors as well.