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ACC Division Breakdown...possibly

Discussion in 'Charlotte Hornets' started by slydevl, Jun 3, 2003.

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  1. Jun 3, 2003 at 10:00 AM #1
    slydevl

    slydevl Asshole for the People!

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    The two new divisions for an expanded Atlantic Coast Conference are in the works, said a source close to the discussions, and one possible setup looks like this:

    • Miami, Boston College, Duke, Georgia Tech, Maryland and North Carolina in one division.

    • Florida State, Clemson, N.C. State, Syracuse, Virginia and Wake Forest in the other.

    In football, each team would play the five other members of its division annually, as well as a team that is predetermined as its rival in the opposite division -- in UM's case, Florida State. Each team also would play two other opponents in the opposite division, rotating those two teams annually.
     
  2. Jun 3, 2003 at 10:02 AM #2
    mathmajors

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    Not a bad balance, but I'll get serious about it when expansion actually occurs.
     
  3. Jun 3, 2003 at 10:50 AM #3
    vpkozel

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    I still think expansion is a bad idea, but making lemonade out of it - how about this idea.

    Bring back the Big 4 tournament - maybe over Christmas. Duke's rival is Wake and Carolina's is State - so have those 2 groups play the first night and then flip flop them for the second night. You could go winners play each other, but that means that Duke-UNC or Wake-State could play each other 3 times. It would draw pretty good and would be much better than that stoooopid ass Tournament of shitty teams - I mean Champions - that they have every year.
     
  4. Jun 3, 2003 at 11:18 AM #4
    mathmajors

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    Yeah, and won't have to deal with anybody in The Family not wanting to play each other.:D
     
  5. Jun 4, 2003 at 12:03 PM #5
    negoshe8er

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    I'm still on the fence as to why it's necessary to totally destroy one conference in order to produce a super conference to begin with. Seems unnecessary to me.

    I know I know, TV $$$. But why pillage the Big East to accomplish it?
     
  6. Jun 4, 2003 at 10:40 PM #6
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    Proposed permanent non-division rivals in this division scenario:

    Duke-Wake
    UNC-State
    Maryland-Virginia
    Ga Tech-Clemson
    Miami-FSU
    BC-Syracuse

    These teams would play once a year in football and twice in basketball. Now, it said that teams would play each division rival in basketball twice a season, plus their nondivision rival twice (12 games, and the other 5 teams in their division once. Guess what? That amounts to 17 games! I would guess teams would play two teams out of the division home-and-home in basketball to make it an 18-game conference schedule.

    So here's my proposed home-and-homes out of the division in basketball:

    Duke--Wake, State
    UNC--Wake, State
    Maryland--Virginia, Clemson
    Ga Tech--Clemson, FSU
    Miami--FSU, Syracuse
    BC--Syracuse, Virginia

    NCSU--Duke, UNC
    Wake--Duke, UNC
    Virginia--Maryland, BC
    Clemson--Ga Tech, Maryland
    FSU--Miami, Ga Tech
    Syracuse--BC, Miami
     
  7. Jun 5, 2003 at 12:28 AM #7
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    No sir, I don't like it.
     
  8. Jun 12, 2003 at 10:15 PM #8
    UNCCTF

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    Play your division twice. Play the other division once. That's 16 games. End of story.
     
  9. Jun 13, 2003 at 11:36 PM #9
    BigVito

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    Latest I heard this afternoon is that there is a new proposal that has no divisonal split for basketball or any other sport except for football. 18 game hoops schedule. 2 game sets rotate yearly except for designated "rival games" eg. Duke/UNC, Duke/MD, MD/UVa, etc.

    This proposal is to get Duke to vote for expansion. They appear to be THE swing vote. UVa has it's hands tied politically and UNC is, well, UNC.

    BV
     
  10. Jun 13, 2003 at 11:42 PM #10
    DaveW

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    yep..thats a poor excuse. How many conferences are doing this now?Personally I ope ACC expansion falls through. word is Arkansas will leave the SEC for the big 10 and FSU will take their place.
     
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