A theory

Maybe God's plan for us - and our route to being saved - is all within our hands. Maybe His end goal is to have us prove His existence or locate Him, and the saved are thise that believed in Him without that scientific proof.

What if it was all one big scavenger hunt?

 

If that were true, then why did Jesus subject Himself to torture and death?

 

Maybe that was all part of the plan. Without him, maybe the US never leaves mother England and the idea of free worship without persecution never happens.

And while he did subject himself to crucifiction, the fact taht he asked God why he forsaked him is pretty good proof that he was having second thoughts, right? But I don't think that Jesus dying for our sins has anything to do with when Judgement Day occurs, does it?

All of this dicussion about God and science has just gotten me thinking.

 

Before I dig into this hypothesis with you, I gotta ask. Are you being serious, or is this just a whimsical hypothetical?

 

I am being totally serious, but I could be way off base. But I believe that after God created the universe He basically has let it function on its own. And this would seem to fit with that. If He did this, He had to know that at some point we would either be able to prove or disprove His existence, wouldn't He?

 

It's hard to say. For this hypothesis to have merit, you basically have to throw out the Bible completely. Without that, it's hard to know much of anything about the nature and properties of God Himself.

We can conclude that there is a God and He created the universe from the Intelligent Design theory. I could see how we could infer that for the most part the universe pretty much runs itself, based on the consistencies and patterns we observe. I'd argue, however, that there are too many anomalies in history, both past and present to conclude He's completely hands-off, though.

So far we've got a God who's got to be immortal, if not eternal, to have had enough time to create everything we see, assuming scientific carbon dating is anywhere near accurate. He's got to be free from dependencies on the physical realm, because He had to have existed before they did to have created them. From that we could conclude he's ethereal. Spirit, energy, whatever.

But the level of intelligence of a Creator means also having consciousness and will, so He couldn't be just an energy source. So we can narrow Him down to spirit.

But even if we can infer that much from the evidence of creation, we can know little, if anything, about His character or intent. How do we know if He cares? Why would He?

And I'll counter your question with another question -- how could we possibly hope to 'prove' the existence of an ethereal being with only physical means?

 

Why? I don't think that Creationism and Evoluton are at odds, so why would this be a problem? Maybe I am missing something?

I have to leave for the beach for Easter. I hope that you all have a wonderful weekend and a great Easter.

 

I wasn't referring to Creationism vs. Evolution. I'm talking about a game of hide-and-seek for the ages vs. the Biblical account of God's relationship with man. The two are irreconcilable.

 

Have a great one, man. :xyzthumbs

 

OK. I did not say hide and seek, I said scavenger hunt - meaning that he laid out the path towards him with clues that be revealed as we advanced. I think that is a very big difference. The "clues" - science and archeology included - build upon each other until we finally know the right place to "find" God.

Does that make more sense?