2012 Draft overall thoughts thread

I am not thrilled with the draft but it was not awful either. Trading next year's third round pick was the worst part of it. I do not see anyone from this draft making a big impact this coming season.

 

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Steve Smith was drafted as a P R

Remember 100's at the time questioned the pick

 

yeah but smitty didn't suffer a stroke and have a history of migraines

 

First, I told you so. No DT, wasnt happening. Get your heads out of the sand. We got 2 3rd rounders from last year and a FA. Coach the young guys up and get them in the weight room.

At first I didnt like Keluchy but the more I think about it I like it. It gives us more flexability if everyone is healthy, good depth if Davis is hurt. Bottom line is the kid is a good football player. Over 500 tackles in 3 years, god knows we need someone who can tackle. Think about all the big plays given up because of poor tackling last year. Im hoping he'll be a Dan Morgan type without the injury bug.

I like getting a nasty G too. We run the ball here guys. Cam is the fanchise. Having a nasty G down the field blocking for him or our backs is a good thing.

Love getting the CC kid. A gamble, sure. But for a 5th rounder good value considering he was being compared to second rounders.

No stars, but if we got at least 2 starters and some core players it was a good draft.

 

Pretty much everyone had agreed on that point for the last month. Some held on to the idea that Fletcher Cox might be the pick, but most of us always took Rivera's word that they were satisfied with their DTs even though they shouldn't be. It's bizarre that you say "I told you so" when numerous people were saying the same thing, just like when you claimed to be the first on DeCastro when actually there were several posters who touted him before you.



In other news, holy shit the Steelers murdered the 2012 draft. I'm not a huge fan of Mike Adams, but in the late second he's good value and the rest of their picks were absolute steals. Just a crazy good performance by Pittsburgh.

 

Youre so easy. I knew youd reply to that and the Decastro thing as well. Still, alot of people seem to think DT is a drastic need. I happen to think its not. Sceme will have to overcome talent. The flexiblity(hopefully) of our LBs should allow for some exotic looks.

Nice how youre lauding the Steelers draft like every other talking head in the media is right now. What an expert!

 

Uhm ... DT is a drastic need. The Panthers were 25th in rush defense in large part because the middle couldn't hold up, while the tackles also contributed almost nothing in terms of pass rush.

 

First, I learned a good while ago that what I want isn't what the team wants. Being disappointed they didn't pick player X because he's a name I remember shouldn't enter in. I'm addressing in order of perceived need so the syntax will be a little funky.

I didn't want Kuechly - then again I didn't want Newton. Oopsomglol, etc. That's fine. I still wouldn't pick him - I'd trade. I still don't get how it will all fit, but there was a need. There's a logic. You get better at run D - teams that control A and B gap are usually the best defenses. You get better at coverage. There's evidence he actually is good when he's heading downhill, so he 'could' blitz well. It's a need I would have filled later, but if you're not picking a DT, and you're not going to pick the obvious end (thank God, honestly), you have a need at run defense and then you address it. This was a fine pick, and I'm good with it being where I wouldn't go. It will make us better.

I wanted a DT but didn't expect it, so the best I anticipated was someone who could play end and tackle, or an end/LB tweener for the outside rush. Anderson looks like he can be that tweener, but he does have potential to be a base end, too. I didn't feel like end was the unconditional, must-have draft pick of the decade.

I would have really preferred, of two things I could really change - no future draft picks, and no WR. I like Adams, and I get it. He'll help out a lot, especially at returns hopefully. But we're full of young WR and I don't know how you develop everyone if not everyone stays. I like what most of our WR can bring already - the two '10 guys, Pilares definitely has potential, and there's a shiftiness to Adams that has some Steve Smith open field. Edwards has ability too, and I don't know how you could not keep him through his contract, too. So you have five different WR you should keep for two years. It's a lot to keep on a roster.

Will those two kids be enough to fill our run D? Probably not in its entirety. Tackling better in some other spots, plus Edwards/Beason/whatever we might get of TD, should help. DT would be better served by a 2nd vet, but they're tied to their youth. I can be OK with that.

I obviously liked Norman, he plays the ball at an NFL level and he's physical. Speed seems to be the 'worry' and I'm not worried there. He ran a 4.55 and he's not going to be the guy you match in man. Give it time with a real training program and his athleticism deep should show.

Silatolu, my only worry is the ability to pick up the coaching/playbook. He doesn't sound stupid, just unconcerned with school. He probably wouldn't be here if he weren't a hard worker. Physically, he's as good as you could hope for. He gives a shit, which is nice (as I've said).

I do think it's interesting that Norman and Silatolu are both guys who made school commitments and couldn't qualify. It doesn't bother me - I do see a value in players that can embrace the opportunity to learn and better - but I'm currently more happy that these are guys who could've gone to play at Georgia/Nevada and not just guys who played well at Northwestern Shiteater State and got a look.

I don't know the punter. I took a nap with my kid around the time we took him, then the wife drug me to some nonsense last night so I've been writing this for small portions of two days. I like DJ Campbell. Doesn't have to stick, it's a late 7, but we've done well with our 5-7s. And, who knows if we'll actually pay both of the backups we signed. History suggests the loser might go.

 

agree about nastiness. There's some ST ability here, yeah. The OLB bit is offset by what we have and that Kuechly, one way or another, creates an OLB. I'd actually prefer he be the OLB, unless other situations force him inside.