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Discussion in 'Carolina Panthers' started by The Batman, Aug 10, 2011.

  1. Collin

    Collin soap and water

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    Best guesses:

    #1) He won't get nearly as much attention as Suh, mostly because he'll have few sacks, but Buffalo will significantly improve on defense as a result of being stout at DT.

    #2) Limited. Roddy White and Tony Gonzalez had more combined targets than any other duo in 2010, so I think it will take time for Jones to get his share of the spotlight. He'll definitely have some Sportscenter plays and turn a couple of games, though.

    #3) They can win the division again and be one of the NFC powers, but I don't think their defense is good enough to compete with Green Bay.

    #4) It won't burst completely, but 7-9 or 8-8 seems likely. Freeman is getting some of the same hype that Ryan got early on. They're both solid and both impressive for such young guys, but neither is a superstar. I've already detailed how defenses should play Freeman, so I expect that teams will make adjustments.

    #5) Hard to say, because New Orleans and Atlanta both made improvements. I'll go with the Saints just because no one ever wins it twice in a row.

    #6) Oh yeah, he's legit. I'm surprised that they added Sproles, as that will limit Ingram on passing downs, but he'll have an impact.

    #7) If it's up to Fox then he'll ride Orton until they're officially out of playoff contention. It's just weird to me that people are more accepting of Vince Young and how he wins games than Tebow doing pretty much the same thing. Neither guy will complete a high percentage, but they can generate yards and win games.

    #8) Nah. People put up with loudmouths as long as they contribute in other ways. :7:

    #9) I think so. It's shocking to see him fall so far, so fast, but he sure looked done in Minn & Tenn.

    #10) Continue to be mediocre, yeah. They had to cut a lot of talent.
     
  2. Collin

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    That's the point. Orton played pretty well in 2010, but the team lost anyway. That's what people keep trying to explain to you when you embarrass yourself insisting that the Panthers could have been a playoff team last season with a better quarterback.
     
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    Except that the Panthers had a much better running game and defense than Denver had.
     
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    1) I really wanted him as well. After losing their best defender Polasky (sp) he had better be that good.
    2) I'm afraid he'll be great with Gonzo and White getting better defenders
    3) They will be as good if not better. Not Super Bowl material though IMO
    4) Yes
    5) Yes as long as their Defense steps back up
    6) That was a head scratchier pick IMO. Pierre Thomas, Ivory and Bush at the time seemed like more than enough of a running game. Who gets the majority of the carries?
    7) I think their expectations are low but you'll never know how good or bad Tebow will be until he plays a lot. He played well in mop up work last year but this year he is falling down the depth chart per Mortenson and the Professor
    8) Doubt it
    9)No
    10) Hope so
     
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    It'll be interesting watching the Pats lead most of the 13 3-4 teams back to a 4-3.

    I want to see what Hue Jackson will do with the Raiders, since they responded to him as an OC, and what flavors he brings to this Coryell thing. He has Al Saunders with him, so there should be a lot to work with. But they have scraps at QB.

    Interested to see next week whether the Giants fall apart without parts of that OL.
    Interested to see if Philly can live up to hype - my guess is they'll still suffer within the division, to a point.

    What happens with Washington? That could be a terrible QB situation, and they have a shitload of backs you knew three years ago. I don't know how that's a good idea. Defense will continue to be terrible, which is a situation not enough people realize.

    Who gets injured first few weeks? My guess is, based on things so far, we'll have a few more catastrophic injuries (but less banged up rosters overall).

    And Collin will be perpetually angry because he can't control himself. Blaming it on anyone else seems "intellectually dishonest". #themoreyouknow
     
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    I'm interested in the ongoing saga between Abusive and Darin Gantt.

    Abusive said he sat in Gantt's old seat at the fanfest presser. Major cuckery right there.
     
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    re: 5) Last year, New Orleans was down RBs about like we were in '05. My 2 cents, I don't think they're worried about guys not getting enough carries.

    The games between NO and Atl should be pretty fun to watch, I hope at least one gets a 4PM slot.
     
  8. Collin

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    Better, but I wouldn't say "much." Denver was the worst defense in the league last season, but I was surprised to see that Carolina was 7th worst.
     
  9. Collin

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    AFC East:
    y-New England Patriots 11-5
    x-New York Jets 10-6
    Buffalo Bills 6-10
    Miami Dolphins 5-11

    AFC North:
    y-Baltimore Ravens 12-4
    x-Pittsburgh Steelers 12-4
    Cleveland Browns 4-12
    Cincinnati Bengals 3-13

    AFC South:
    y-Indianapolis Colts 10-6
    Houston Texans 9-7
    Tennessee Titans 7-9
    Jacksonville Jaguars 6-10

    AFC West:
    z-San Diego Chargers 12-4
    Kansas City Chiefs 8-8
    Oakland Raiders 6-10
    Denver Broncos 5-11


    NFC East:
    y-New York Giants 11-5
    x-Philadelphia Eagles 10-6
    Dallas Cowboys 7-9
    Washington Redskins 4-12

    NFC North:
    z-Green Bay Packers 13-3
    Minnesota Vikings 9-7
    Chicago Bears 8-8
    Detroit Lions 8-8

    NFC South:
    y-New Orleans Saints 11-5
    x-Atlanta Falcons 11-5
    Tampa Bay Buccaneers 7-9
    Carolina Panthers 5-11

    NFC West:
    y-St. Louis Rams 9-7
    San Francisco 49ers 7-9
    Seattle Seahawks 5-11
    Arizona Cardinals 5-11


    Playoffs:
    New England Patriots over New York Jets
    Pittsburgh Steelers over Indianapolis Colts
    New York Giants over Philadelphia Eagles
    Atlanta Falcons over St. Louis Rams

    Pittsburgh Steelers over San Diego Chargers
    Baltimore Ravens over New England Patriots
    Green Bay Packers over Atlanta Falcons
    New Orleans Saints over New York Giants

    Baltimore Ravens over Pittsburgh Steelers
    Green Bay Packers over New Orleans Saints

    Baltimore Ravens over Green Bay Packers
     
  10. the212

    the212 It ain't what it was.

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    John Fox doesn't appreciate your level of intellectual dishonesty here, sir.
     

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