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Goodell looks to address/limit rookie holdouts

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  1. Paladin

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    NFL's Goodell targets holdouts
    Commissioner hopes for pay changes that would get rookies in training camp

    By Patrick McManamonBeacon Journal sportswriter

    Published on Friday, Aug 17, 2007

    BEREA: Roger Goodell did Brady Quinn a huge favor on draft day in New York.

    Now Goodell would like to do something to ensure that players like Quinn do not hold out when negotiating their rookie contracts.

    ''It's one of the issues we've talked with the union about in negotiations, and I think it'll be clearly one of the issues we talk about when we sit down and talk about making changes that we would make to the system,'' Goodell said Thursday during the NFL commissioner's visit to the Browns' training camp. ''What can be done to either eliminate or certainly limit the possibility of players holding out during training camp, particularly rookies?''

    Goodell's day started with a morning flight to Detroit, where he said that the money paid to rookies who have yet to play a down may have a negative effect on a team.

    ''It's difficult when a rookie comes into a locker room and has (a large) signing bonus,'' he told the Detroit media. ''It's difficult (for) the veterans to provide that kind of leadership that's so important on teams. Money changes that dynamic a little bit.

    ''We'll talk to Gene (Upshaw). We're not trying to save the dollars; we just think the dollars should go to players who have earned that on the field through their accomplishments and leadership. It's a system we have, and

    we'll do the best we can with it right now.''

    Goodell has had a busy and productive year since taking over as commissioner on Sept. 1, 2006.

    He has toughened the standards players must meet in their off-field behavior.

    He has studied concussions and how to better treat players who suffer them.

    And he has opened the league more to the media through increased access to players, coaches and him.

    Goodell even humanized the draft process when he saw Brady Quinn's first-round free-fall and the attention it drew on TV. Quinn suffered through every pick when he was not taken, and cameras focused on him constantly.

    So Goodell invited Quinn to his ''green room'' to give the rookie some privacy.

    ''The focus on that just wasn't right,'' Goodell said. ''It wasn't why we ask players to come to the draft. I just thought we'd let him sit and see what was going on, with his family, in a private moment.''

    Goodell addressed several issues in his meeting with the media, and many of the questions dealt with Michael Vick and the federal dog-fighting charges against the Atlanta Falcons quarterback.

    Vick is said to be negotiating a plea agreement and has been told by Goodell not to report to the Falcons until an NFL investigation into the situation is completed.

    Goodell called dog fighting ''despicable'' and said that it happened at all was ''incomprehensible.''

    But he also said that the gambling elements of Vick's alleged dog-fighting ring have drawn the league's attention. ''It's certainly an issue,'' Goodell said. ''Law enforcement may be concerned about certain things about (Vick's case). We may be concerned about other aspects.''

    The league's gambling policy states that severe penalties can result from ''associating with gamblers or gambling activities in a manner tending to bring discredit to the NFL.''

    Goodell has made a strong statement in his suspensions. Adam ''PacMan'' Jones has been suspended for one year, and defensive tackle Tank Johnson for eight games. Vick's situation is being followed closely.


    ''Michael Vick is not performing in the NFL right now, and we are dealing with this aggressively,'' Goodell said. ''And I think the public understands that. I think our fans recognize that in no way do we accept anyone who is involved with dog fighting.''

    Goodell spent a lot of time in Cleveland in the three years the Browns were without a team. He was Paul Tagliabue's point man in the building of the new stadium and the revival of the franchise.

    He spent 15 or 20 minutes of his day Thursday meeting with the Browns, and he spoke of personal responsibility.

    ''I think it's obvious that his message is going to be effective,'' receiver Joe Jurevicius said. ''There's kind of no way around it. He's the commissioner of the NFL. He's doing a lot of great things for the NFL.

    ''He's stated his stance, and it's for us to abide by.'' noweb


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    Patrick McManamon can be reached at [email protected].

    BEREA: Roger Goodell did Brady Quinn a huge favor on draft day in New York.

    Now Goodell would like to do something to ensure that players like Quinn do not hold out when negotiating their rookie contracts.

    ''It's one of the issues we've talked with the union about in negotiations, and I think it'll be clearly one of the issues we talk about when we sit down and talk about making changes that we would make to the system,'' Goodell said Thursday during the NFL commissioner's visit to the Browns' training camp. ''What can be done to either eliminate or certainly limit the possibility of players holding out during training camp, particularly rookies?''

    Goodell's day started with a morning flight to Detroit, where he said that the money paid to rookies who have yet to play a down may have a negative effect on a team.

    ''It's difficult when a rookie comes into a locker room and has (a large) signing bonus,'' he told the Detroit media. ''It's difficult (for) the veterans to provide that kind of leadership that's so important on teams. Money changes that dynamic a little bit.

    ''We'll talk to Gene (Upshaw). We're not trying to save the dollars; we just think the dollars should go to players who have earned that on the field through their accomplishments and leadership. It's a system we have, and
    we'll do the best we can with it right now.''
     
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    President Lincoln Assassinated

    On the evening of April 14, 1865, while attending a special performance of the comedy, "Our American Cousin," President Abraham Lincoln was shot. Accompanying him at Ford's Theater that night were his wife, Mary Todd Lincoln, a twenty-eight year-old officer named Major Henry R. Rathbone, and Rathbone's fiancee, Clara Harris. After the play was in progress, a figure with a drawn derringer pistol stepped into the presidential box, aimed, and fired. The president slumped forward.

    The assassin, John Wilkes Booth, dropped the pistol and waved a dagger. Rathbone lunged at him, and though slashed in the arm, forced the killer to the railing. Booth leapt from the balcony and caught the spur of his left boot on a flag draped over the rail, and shattered a bone in his leg on landing. Though injured, he rushed out the back door, and disappeared into the night on horseback.


    A doctor in the audience immediately went upstairs to the box. The bullet had entered through Lincoln's left ear and lodged behind his right eye. He was paralyzed and barely breathing. He was carried across Tenth Street, to a boarding-house opposite the theater, but the doctors' best efforts failed. Nine hours later, at 7:22 AM on April 15th, Lincoln died.



    At almost the same moment Booth fired the fatal shot, his accomplice, Lewis Paine, attacked Lincoln's Secretary of State, William Henry Seward. Seward lay in bed, recovering from a carriage accident. Paine entered the mansion, claiming to have a delivery of medicine from the Secretary's doctor. Seward's son, Frederick, was brutally beaten while trying to keep Paine from his father's door. Paine slashed the Secretary's throat twice, then fought his way past Seward's son Augustus, an attending hospital corps veteran, and a State Department messenger.
    Paine escaped into the night, believing his deed complete. However, a metal surgical collar saved Seward from certain death. The Secretary lived another seven years, during which he retained his seat with the Johnson administration, and purchased Alaska from Russia in 1867.
    There were at least four conspirators in addition to Booth involved in the mayhem. Booth was shot and captured while hiding in a barn near Bowling Green, Virginia, and died later the same day, April 26, 1865. Four co-conspirators, Paine, George Atzerodt, David Herold, and Mary Surratt, were hanged at the gallows of the Old Penitentiary, on the site of present-day Fort McNair, on July 7, 1865.
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  3. McFly41

    McFly41 Work Hard...PLAY HARDER!

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    I'd like to see salaries set based on tenure. A base salary with incentive bonuses that are performance based. Each team would have a signing bonus amount to work with each year and for signing/renewing contracts and a player MUST play out an existing contract no more renegotiations in mid-contract.
     
  4. Collin

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    No. Athletes are not slaves, and the NFL isn't communist.


    P.S. Eat a bag of dicks.
     
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    Shit, I'll be a slave if you give me a $30 mil. dollar signing bonus before I even do my first chore.
     
  6. Collin

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    I'm talking about what McFly proposed.
     
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    Gotcha. I do agree that players should be able to renegotiate their rookie contracts if they outperform them in the first couple of years.
     
  8. McFly41

    McFly41 Work Hard...PLAY HARDER!

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    What's Commy about a person getting paid for thier performance and getting an annual raise? Sounds like the way the rest of us get paid.
    Most of the guys with big contracts are still going to get the big money through performance bonuses. You sign a contract, it CAN be renegotiated...but both parties must agree. Personally, if I sign a contract I intend to adhere to the terms I signd for...for the duration of said contract.
     
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    The right to bargin is the least we should stand behind. If not for what labor stood up for we would not live like we do today. Yea I want them in camp too but I still like a contract signed before any work done.
     
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    that's gotta hurt like a goddamned mothefucker
     

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