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Jenks news

Discussion in 'Carolina Panthers' started by HeadCase, Apr 5, 2006.

  1. Growl

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    :umno: Excuse me. Exactly what do you think my opinion is educated or otherwise? I will restate it.....I do not think Carstens is perceived by the Panthers as the person who would start if Jenkins got hurt again. As of this moment and per reporters covering the Panthers as stated in my post Carstens is behind Lewis on the depth chart.

    I do not see how your education is going to change my opinion regarding how the Panthers perceive Lewis in relationship to Carstens. As I said ..who actually gets the playing time will be determined on the field.
     
  2. Collin

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    Because you don't appear to understand situational replacements. You appear to have some grade school "I play Madden so I know shit" understanding of football where just one player replaces another player. Carstens is perceived by the Panthers as someone who can start because he did start. Meanwhile the salary accepted by Lewis suggests that both he and the Panthers view him as a situational player, and given his skill set, that means coming in on passing downs to get after the quarterback. Will he play some on run downs? I assume so. Will he play even more if Jenkins goes down? Sure. Will the Panthers choose a guy known to be a liability against the run as their everydown replacement for Jenkins if something happens to him? Not fucking likely.
    I was trying to be polite in correcting you, but you know less than shit about shit. There is no depth chart at this point. The team hasn't created one, reporters are just guessing right now how things will shake out. Seriously, I was trying to do you a favor by politely (for me anyway) clueing you in to the fact that you didn't know what you were talking about, and explaining to you how skill strengths play into our substitution patterns. The fact that Carstens plays the run reasonably well is significant. The fact that Damione Lewis is a major liability against the run is also significant. These facts should clue you in as to what is likely to happen should anything prevent Jenkins from playing. As it stands, even if Jenkins does stay healthy, where will Lewis see action? That's right, as a situational pass rusher probably substituting for Kemoeatu.

    Look, you don't have to know everything and I hope that you learn lots of things on this board, but I god damn know stuff and I was trying to impart some of that knowledge onto you because you seemed pretty cool before you starting acting like you actually know something in this thread. You don't.
     
  3. McFly41

    McFly41 Work Hard...PLAY HARDER!

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    Jesus Collin, you and this attitude are fucking this place up. Somebody says something you find silly, keep it to yourself rather than throwing your petty insults and big brain at them.
    While I agree with what your saying, once again your delivery is way over the top. You know shit, and that's great, but you don't need a wake of insignificant banter to make a point.

    And no, I am not :imagestor on this, I am just making a statement that my interest in things here has withered to the point where it's difficult to discuss anything seriously. Take it or leave it, it matters not.
     
  4. magnus

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    oh boy.

    Honestly, this is another situation where it's just opinion. It's entirely plausible to believe that Lewis is held in higher regard, or that Carstens is held in higher regard, but it's outright useless since they probably won't see the field at the same time, and with any luck Carstens will not see the field much at all anyway. Injury-free, Carstens shouldn't be playing a lot, which tells me what I need to know of this situation, but whether Carstens or Lewis is considered a "starter" is just off-the-charts strange to be worked up about.
     
  5. Collin

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    Given your history, you definitely can't be lecturing anyone about having an attitude.
    How about not? This "no one ever correct anyone else" nonsense is nothing more than naked cowardice. The people who say that are the people who hate being corrected. Silly statements should always be corrected, otherwise you're displaying total disregard for any actual knowledge or validity.
    Try paying attention for once. I stated something, Growl stated disagreement, I corrected Growl, and then he didn't like being corrected. The simple fact is that he didn't know what he was talking about, and it's clear that he didn't know. He's quoting Darin Gantt as "evidence" for Christ's sake. Moreover, I provided him with the knowledge to update his opinion without the aforementioned attitude. It's when he responded with indignation that I put him in his place.
    Boo fucking hoo. When I find the Panthers board for pussies and old ladies, I'll let you know.
     
  6. McFly41

    McFly41 Work Hard...PLAY HARDER!

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    Like I said, take it or leave it and you expectedly choose to leave it. Fine by me, I just wanted to waist my fucking time making the point that you don't need to go ape shit over these petty arguements.
    I got no problem with the arguments themselves, just trim the fucking fat so that it can still be somewhat interesting to ponder the differing points of view. You don't have to come at everyone sideways and I think you'd find that things would be better recieved if you didn't.
    Sure I can get an attitude from time to time, but not in every single thread. Again, you knowledge of things football is appreciated and I personally like your input for the most part.

    I am done!:1peekdoor
     
  7. El Bastardo

    El Bastardo Who me?

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    There's a difference between pretending everyone's opinions are perfect, and saying "what's wrong with you? I already told you what you're supposed to believe." You're correcting opinions. And the opinion that Lewis is ahead of Carstens on the depth chart is just as plausible as Carstens -> Lewis.
     
  9. Collin

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    I realize that you're just saying this in an attempt to cover your own ass from previous threads, but you know as well as I do both that you have corrected the "opinions" of others on a regular basis, and that it's absolutely true about Lewis being a liability as a run defender. Growl didn't understand why that was significant because he thinks in video game terms where just one guy replaces another guy. In the real world, teams often make situational replacements when losing someone, especially when the backups have exaggerated strengths and weaknesses. Lewis' significant weakness against the run means it's extremely unlikely that he'd play more of the run downs than Carstens if something should happen to Jenkins. By the same token, I'm not saying that Carstens is ahead of Lewis "on the depth chart" because the depth chart isn't relevant to this discussion. Lewis will presumably play regularly on passing downs whether Jenkins reinjures himself or not, which means he's more likely to play than Carstens. But if Jenkins does get hurt again, Carstens will get the majority of those run downs.
     
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    I'm stating this because I thought it disrespectful when you've done it to me, and when you've done it to others here. You're outright correcting someone on something you don't know definitively.

    Have I done it in the past? Sure. I also used to wet the bed and weigh 9 pounds. The end result is that you're not going to excuse something you know is wrong by trying to weasel it off on me. You're going to have to stop this "I already told you what you should believe" stuff.
     
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