Aaron Brooks benched

You should have just taken my advice, but instead you're insisting upon making yourself look stupid. And no, saying that Aaron Brooks is a very talented QB is not just my opinion. It is something that has been noted by unlimited media sources, and descriptions of Brooks by NFL analysts have almost always been about how he is "a very talented quarterback, but..."

Yeah, I knew what you were getting at, which is why I said:
"No it isn't. Pretty much everyone acknowledges that Aaron Brooks is very talented (while Bouman isn't), but obviously talent does not always equal production, and it certainly doesn't imply good judgment."

You should have taken that statement and agreed with it or remained silent, both because I know more about this kind of stuff than you could if you spent the rest of your natural life studying it, and because it's actually true based on a lot more opinions than just my own. You were just plain wrong, and for whatever reason you continued to argue and defend your obviously incorrect statement instead of just letting it go. So instead of an innocent mistake, this is now growing into a case of you being humiliated at your complete lack of knowledge. Honestly, I wasn't going to point out how stupid you were being about this, but you just couldn't let it go.

No, it's not just my opinion. Moreover, it's pretty much a fact depending upon what measurables you want to use. Brooks has above average arm strength, good mobility, and assorted other talents that make him physically one of the more gifted quarterbacks around. And I consistently noted that being "talented" did not at all imply that Brooks had good judgment or that he always performs well.

And you're right about that, but that has nothing to do with talent, which is why you're embarrassing yourself. Note the millions of discussions people have had about players who are talented but either don't have the brains or the heart to perform well. You should have noticed from those comments that talent is considered something separate, and therefore your lumping of that with overall performance was particularly ignorant and foolish.


In the future whenever you get an urge to argue with me, just punch yourself in the face until the inclination passes. You'll do less damage that way.

 

Collin, just so you know being a leader, making correct decisions, the non physical things are talents as well.

Have you ever heard somebody talk about a person being a talented writer, artist, speaker? Those aren't how fast you can run, jump or throw a ball.

Maybe you need to look up the word before you decide on your opinion as to what it means. Now if you were arguing just physical talent then you would be correct, but since it was overall talent, McFly is correct.

tal·ent ( P ) Pronunciation Key (tlnt)
n.
A marked innate ability, as for artistic accomplishment. See Synonyms at ability.

Natural endowment or ability of a superior quality.
A person or group of people having such ability: The company makes good use of its talent.
A variable unit of weight and money used in ancient Greece, Rome, and the Middle East. 1: natural qualities or talents [syn: endowment, gift, natural endowment] 2: a person who possesses unusual innate ability in some field or activity

 

I have a talent too. Its fast forwarding thru posts when I see Collin bitching with someone (anyone) about some stupid-ass meaningless thing like who played FS in practice for a few days or what the definition of a word is.

 

I would like to buy Collin for what he's worth, then turn around and sell him for what he thinks he's worth.

 

Now this is what I'm talking about. Two Panthers fans arguing over the quarterbacking ability of Aaron Brooks. Personally, I think we could have done much worse over the past 5 years. Had we just had an average defense for several of those years.....you never know.

Nevertheless, good luck this weekend and hope you guys roll into the playoffs with some momentum.

Playoffs? Did you say playoffs?

p.s. Have I ever told you how much I hate the Falcons? If nothing else, I wanted the Saints to beat them last week and crush their playoff hopes. Damn that Vick (And the medias obsession with him)

 

I don't care if Brooks is a leader or if he's even talented. He's whipped our ass on muliple occasions including a couple of months ago. I'm happy to see Bouman starting on Sunday.

 

I think you'll be happy with what you'll see on Sunday.

 

Actually maybe you should give the idea further consideration before getting yourself in trouble by arguing with me. A talented painter is born with that ability. People aren't born with the ability to read defenses. That is a skill, and one developed through arduous study. Therefore one's judgment as a quarterback is not a talent, unlike artistic ability or physical gifts.

Wrong. Even if we considered reading defenses to be a talent (which it isn't), McFly would still be rather obviously wrong because Brooks does have those considerable physical talents. So therefore he is "very talented" no matter how you want to look at it. Furthermore, note that Piper and others have already acknowledged that fact, as does pretty much every article on Brooks in existence. The problem is that people like you want to argue with people like me, and that's when you make mistakes that cause you to be wrong.

 

Charlotte paper today called Bouman and interception waiting to happen. Said he liked to force the ball (who else do I know like that?) and was prone to interceptions including in warm ups ! Said he had a weak arm as well. I need a good old fashioned blow out butt whippin (BY US over them!) to wash away the stink of last Sunday. I really thought after the Atlanta game, nothing could get me down from that high - how wrong I was.

 

Yeah, Bouman got a little bit of buzz when he first came over from Minnesota, but he's probably not much of a threat. When I think of him, Rex Grossman comes to mind, although without the injuries. Bouman is something of a gambler, but without the natural physical advantages you find in a guy like Brooks. But sure, the Saints have nothing to lose by giving the guy a shot, and they might as well find out if he should even be considered for the starting position next season. I'm still pretty worried about how we'll handle their defensive ends.