The "financial flexibility" thread

Collin your problem is you are incredibly egotistical and can't admit your wrong. Did we have the #1 offense with smith, gross and Williams? No. You proballly bitched about gross when he was here jumping off sides all the time. Williams and smith had good season..ok?..and? Running game was fine without Williams, Smith I missed, but Cam also was better without him (MVP). Except the panthers not showing up in SB for whatever reason they were were great last year (which I believe was a maturity thing) Fox and Hurney never had back to back tiles lol. Panthers were in cap hell and he threw together a team with what they had. To say "he's a idiot" is completely moronic and unfair. You can bitch about his moves all you want but your just being a emotional bitch about it. Being a NFL GM is about results, and he's delivered those. Norman wanted to much, he's gone..deal with it.

 

Man, if only we had the Redskins front office staff.

 

So your argument is that Michael Oher, Mike Remmers, Andrew Norwell, Trai Turner, Ed Dickson, Ted Ginn, Corey Brown, Jared Allen, Kony Ealy, Star Lotulelei, Kawann Short, Shaq Thompson, Charles Tillman, Roman Harper, and Kurt Coleman (Gettleman's players) deserve more credit for those achievements than Cam Newton, Jonathan Stewart, Greg Olsen, Ryan Kalil, Luke Kuechly, Thomas Davis, and Josh Norman (not Gettleman's players)? If you would stop and think about the actual reasoning behind your statements then you would realize how absurd they are, but people like you don't actually think about things before you post. Your mind can't comprehend anything more simplistic than: "Gettleman was here when the Panthers won so he must be good." Your brain is too atrophied to contemplate whether or not Gettleman was a bystander to that winning. I listed his moves above, so you explain to me how those moves have been responsible for the Panthers' success.

Congratulations on picking exactly the wrong argument to make here. Not only have long-time posters seen me admit to being wrong many times in this forum whenever I actually was, but I wrote a column that went out in print across North America that began with the words "I was wrong." No one else on TBR has admitted to being wrong more often than I have even though I'm wrong less often than anyone else. Meanwhile you're the one hiding behind an alt talking shit while actually lacking the courage to admit that you were wrong.

The Panthers averaged 6.2 yards gained per offensive play in 2011 and 5.8 yards gained per offensive play in 2012, compared to just 5.5 yards gained per offensive play in 2015. Carolina led the league in scoring last season because the defense led the league in turnovers by far, returning five of them for touchdowns. The offensive itself was actually worse last season than pre-Gettleman. Part of that is because Gettleman absolutely refused to spend money on offensive tackle or wide receiver. Oher and Remmers got destroyed in the Super Bowl. Domenik Hixon, Jerricho Cotchery, and Tiquan Underwood were not the right moves at wide receiver. Ted Ginn was a positive, but why was he forced to be the main wideout? Sure, Benjamin went down, but why didn't the team have another competent wide receiver? Gettleman obviously believed that Cotchery was good enough. Do you agree? I don't. I think that was stupid.

Jonathan Stewart deserves credit for running with grit and determination behind sketchy blockers, but DeAngelo Williams clearly had the better season of the two. And what happened when Stewart missed time, as he always does? The team couldn't run the ball because it didn't have a competent alternative at running back anymore. The team didn't even spend all of its cap space last season, just as they're not going to spend it all this season. Gettleman got rid of Gross, Smith, Williams, and now Norman because of his ego, not because the salary cap forced him to.

The Super Bowl loss had nothing to do with maturity and everything to do with the flaws on the roster that became too big for them to overcome. We've already covered how Gettleman refused to do enough at offensive line and wide receiver, but let's talk about the cornerback position. Instead of signing a cornerback who can actually play defense, Gettleman spent $1.8 million on Teddy Williams. Not only is Williams so inept defensively that they wouldn't put him on the field even after Tillman and Benwikere got hurt, he sucked ass on special teams coverage as well and hurt the team there. Explain to me how Gettleman spending $1.8 on Teddy Williams instead of a cornerback who can actually play corner was a smart move. We all knew that Tillman wouldn't last the season. We're lucky the team got as many games out of him as they did. How could you go into a season with only three true cornerbacks, one of which is extremely injury-prone and another who struggles badly with vertical routes?

My problem isn't my ego, whoever is behind that alt. My problem is too much intelligence. I can't switch my brain off and not think about these things. The flaws that exposed the team in the Super Bowl were obvious to me, which is why I had been bitching about them all season long. You're lucky to have a brain that doesn't function at that level because you can exist in blissful ignorance.

 

Oh yeah!!!! now its officially the start of the 2016 season.

 

Fuck Teddy Williams.

 

I just remembered Gettleman is a Red Sox fan. Ted Williams.


Shit.

 

Overall curious move. Everything indicates that Gettleman just kinda tired of dealing with his agent. I maybe understand the increased financial flexibility but I'm not sure what you really get with it. Does not having Norman at 14 million/year mean we can sign both Star and Short? I dunno. Does it allow us to bring in pricier free agents next year?


We lost a very good corner who was well liked by everyone. I don't buy the distraction thing. He indicated he wouldn't hold out. He just wasn't going to participate in OTA's. Who gives a shit.


Overall seems like a hurried decision by a guy who was frustrated. Gettleman is defending himself by saying he doesn't believe there are shutdown corners and he values them much less than other positions. This leaves us hilariously thin at CB.

 

Gettleman doesn't value corners, WRs and has absolutely no idea what constitutes a good olineman.