Around the league 11/9

It seems like Rodgers never gets enough credit for his greatness. NBC just showed a stat that said Mike McCarthy is one of the highest scoring coaches of all time?


Seriously? Seriously?

 

On another board I took an endless amount of shit for saying that Rodgers is the 5th best QB in NFL history already. In fact, I think I will find that thread and bump it.

 

He comes Clausen to clean up Dom's creampie.

 

Please bump it. I'd like to know who the four are that surpass Rodgers (other than Alex Smith, but that's a given).

 

And what's the shit about Good Jay Cutler/Bad Jay Cutler? Has there ever really been a Good Jay Cutler? I'm looking at his numbers right now. He's had one 4,000 yard season. He's not durable. He's six games over .500. He has one playoff win. His TD/INT is pretty mediocre. Is it really that hard to accept the fact that Cutler isn't a very good quarterback?

 

He was damn good in that one game I ribbed you about, and you got your panties in a wad. And you called me out...rightfully so. But if the Bears have the slightest inclination that Clausen can spark this team over Cutler, QB isn't the issue. Coaching is.

 

No, even in that game he wasn't that good. Kaepernick self-destructed and Cutler's touchdowns were short fades that any QB could throw. He's just an average starting quarterback. There's no WOW moment from his career. Even a guy like Alex Smith has had a few memorable WOW moments.

 

Not a convincing analogy, bro. Even Brian St. Pierre had a wow moment during his career.

 

IN AN IMPORTANT MOMENT.


Not in a non-conference game during a lost season with a coach who didn't give a shit.

 

Ron Jaworski masturbates to pictures of Cutler at least three times a day.

I actually had Rodgers 4th:
#1) Tom Brady: .775 regular season winning percentage, 7.5 passing yards per attempt, 2.68 TD/INT is second best all-time, led the league in TDs three times, and led the league in yards twice. 95.7 QB rating is sixth all-time. 18-8 in the playoffs after starting with 9 straight wins. Best receiver: Randy Moss?

#2) Joe Montana: .713 regular season winning percentage, 7.5 passing yards per attempt, 1.96 TD/INT ratio, led the league in TDs twice, but never led the league in yards. 92.3 career QB rating. 16-7 in the playoffs, including 2-2 with the Chiefs. Arguably the best playoff QB of all-time, but definitely benefited from playing on some amazing teams with the best WR of all-time. Best receiver: Jerry Rice

#3) Brett Favre: .624 regular season winning percentage, 7.1 passing yards per attempt, 1.51 TD/INT ratio, led the league in TDs four times, and led the league in yards twice. He has the most passing yards, passing touchdowns, and wins of all-time. He wasn't as turnover prone as you think during his prime, averaging 17 interceptions per season from age 25 through 35. 13-11 record in the playoffs. Best receiver: Donald Driver?

#4) Aaron Rodgers: .667 regular season winning percentage, 8.2 passing yards per attempt is 3rd all-time behind Otto Graham and Sid Luckman, 3.61 TD/INT ratio is best of all-time by far, interception % of 1.8 is the lowest of all-time, 104.9 career QB rating is 7.7 points higher than anyone else in NFL history. He is 6-4 in the playoffs and needs a few more seasons before he can be called the greatest ever, but he will be by the end of his career. Best receiver: Greg Jennings?

#5) Otto Graham: .867 regular season winning percentage is the best of all-time, 9.0 passing yards per attempt is .6 higher than anyone else in league history, 1.29 TD/INT ratio, led the league in TDs three times, and led the league in yards five times. The ratio isn't as bad as it looks given that he had the lowest interception percentage in the league three times, as apparently there were a ton of interceptions back then. 9-3 overall in the playoffs, but only played ten seasons. Best receiver: Mac Speedie

#6) Peyton Manning: .696 regular season winning percentage, 7.7 passing yards per attempt, 2.24 TD/INT ratio, led the league in TDs four times, and led the league in yards three times. 97.2 QB rating is second all-time. Peyton Manning is arguably the best regular season quarterback of all-time (at least until Aaron Rodgers takes that from him), but you can't ignore that he has twice as many first playoff game losses as any other QB in NFL history. He lost his first playoff game in '99, '00, '02, '05, '07, '08, '10, and '12. No other QB in NFL history has done that more than four times, and in five of those he was a home favorite. Best receiver: Marvin Harrison

#7) Steve Young: .657 regular season winning percentage, 8.0 passing yards per attempt (5th all-time), 2.17 TD/INT ratio, led the league in TDs four times, 96.8 QB rating is third all-time. He only had nine seasons with at least ten starts and wasn't nearly as good as Montana in the playoffs at 8-6. Best receiver: Jerry Rice

#8) Drew Brees: .595 regular season winning percentage, 7.5 passing yards per attempt, 2.05 TD/INT ratio, led the league in TDs four times, and led the league in yards four times. 95.3 career QB rating. 6-5 in the playoffs. Best receiver: Marques Colston

#9) Dan Marino: .613 regular season winning percentage, 7.3 passing yards per attempt, 1.67 TD/INT ratio, led the league in TDs three times, and led the league in yards five times. 8-10 in the playoffs. Best receiver: Mark Clayton

#10) John Elway: 643 regular season winning percentage, 7.1 passing yards per attempt, 1.33 TD/INT ratio, never led his league in TDs and only had 20+ TDs in six of his sixteen seasons, and led in passing yards only once. 14-7 overall in the playoffs, but was 7-6 before Terrell Davis. Best receiver: Shannon Sharpe