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Discussion in 'Carolina Panthers' started by Kevin Costner, Dec 29, 2013.

  1. Black&Black

    Black&Black Try My Product

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    Farmer sounds like a good GM, but I also thought Haslam "sounded" like a good owner at one point.
     
  2. CelticCat

    CelticCat ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED

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    Please fuck off.


    Was Ginn our returner last year or not? Did you yourself admit Hixon was a better WR than Ginn? Please don't make me repost your own quotes again. Did I at any point ever say that Ginn was ONLY a returner, NO, now please stop bringing up your lame ass bullshit time and time again.


    Jesus, I stopped replying to your Tebow bullshit. You crapped on about YPA and tried to act like his wasn't bad. Do you realize how bad his 6.4 YPA during his playoff year was? Do you know where that places him among the list of QB's to play the game, just above Sam Bradford that other QB you slobbered over. No one stat tells the whole story because nobody would ever believe Tim's and better passer than Sam but Jesus, he was dead last in completion percentage in 2011 and by YPA he was almost as bad ranked 28th. He sucked as a passer, I don't care how highly Pitts D was ranked.


    He has leadership ability and a great will to win. He has the ability to run with the ball and is a nice guy but he sucks as a passer, sucks.


    Why anyone would ever deem your advice on QB's credible is beyond me. You'd have passed on Newton and rolled with Kellen Clemens.


    You crapped on me for saying Atlanta had downgraded in FA. How did that work out? LOL at the OLine and Osi/Abraham debate. You crapped on me about how Shula might actually help get us to the playoffs while Chuds Browns would suffer their familiar fate of futility. Maybe you should just listen the fuck up and learn something once and awhile.


    I gave you props months ago for calling Ellington. But how about we don't give up on two players after just one season since they were late round picks and all. Some guys aren't instant successes, some players need more time.


    Maybe he flames out like Adams did, I hope not.


    And I'm the one that always starts shit right?
     
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  3. CelticCat

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    Don't they have 2 #1's now, that's retarded.
     
  4. presidence99

    presidence99 This MARRIAGE?

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    It's not illegal, just frowned upon as I understand it...
     
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    Yes, you repeatedly and vociferously argued that Ginn was a returner while Hixon was a wide receiver:
    We all saw you do it. You argued for page after page against me when I pointed out that Ginn had always put up a respectable catch percentage and that the only time he hadn't been at least a #3 WR was last season.

    I'm going to have arguments with people because I'm extremely opinionated, extremely stubborn, and vastly more intelligent than most. But if you're going to argue with me very publicly for page after page and then mention that argument at all in the future after being proven laughably wrong, please have the balls to acknowledge that you were wrong. We all saw what you said about Ginn. You weren't just arguing that Hixon was better, you repeatedly argued that Ginn offered nothing anymore as a wide receiver. We all saw it. Trying to pretend otherwise is an insult to everyone's intelligence given that we can all click the link to that thread and read what you wrote.

    Sure, it put him on par with Matt Cassel and Christian Ponder. Those guys are bad, and yet no one is arguing that Matt Cassel and Christian Ponder shouldn't be playing quarterback in the NFL. How many times have I posted that Tim Tebow was a below average starting quarterback? It's as if you've never read me say that when I've done so ad nauseum.

    Yeah, I have no clue. It's not like I have a documented record in print of being vastly more accurate on the whole regarding quarterbacks than any other television or print analyst over the last ten years. Pick a fight you can actually win.

    Here's exactly what I said: "McClure wasn't good last year at all, and anyone who watched the games knew that. And regarding Osi, Abraham is a better pure pass rusher but he can only play a limited number of snaps and is a bigger liability against the run than Umenyiora. Osi is a good player and it's silly to downplay that just because Atlanta is the one who signed him. " And that's absolutely correct. Abraham got signed late and was very effective for Arizona as a pass rush specialist, but pass rush specialist is the only thing he was for them.

    It's hysterical that you bring this up thinking it makes you look good. Shula didn't "help get us to the playoffs," he nearly kept the Panthers from reaching them with his god-awful play-calling. Everyone here agrees that Shula did a terrible job and you're actually going to come on here trying to insist otherwise? This is exactly what I mean. You don't just waste everyone's time fighting with me when I'm vastly out of your league, but then you never acknowledge your defeats or learn from them. There is zero question that the Panthers' offense got worse by going from Chudzinski to Shula. Carolina not only completely lost the big play element that had made the offense so dangerous in 2011 and 2012, but as I've noted many times, ended up with fewer first downs as well. The Panthers only had more overall time of possession because the defense kept getting Newton the ball back.

    You're making excuses for pimping Barner, which you did here: http://www.thisboardrocks.com/forum/f19/182-186189/index4.html#post2749866 It's fine that you hoped Barner would be better than he was. There is absolutely nothing shameful in being wrong about a 6th round pick. I've been wrong about plenty of guys, even if I'm correct more often than most. But what I don't do is continue to pimp someone after I find out that I was wrong.
     
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    Since 1999 the Browns will have or are currently paying just over 100 million dollars in dead money to front office or coaches
     
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    The NFL is going to start penalizing teams 15 yards if a player uses the N word. This shit is getting out of hand
    Goodell is ruining the league
     
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    It's only a five yard penalty if a black guy says it.
     

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