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wow, just wow

 

And Rodgers only put up 257 yards and had a lower QBR than both Ryan and Flacco against SF. Does that make him worse than Ryan or Flacco?

I realise you want to use every single game Flacco played in during the playoffs to make your point but during his SB run last year he had a 117 QBR. He threw for 1140 yards, 11 TD's to 0 Ints. Thats pretty damn clutch under any circumstances. I realise his first 2 times around he was pretty sucky. But unlike Sanchez he has shown improvemnt over the last 3 years. If you used just those years his QBR would be much more impressive.

What has Sanchez ever done to make you think he is clutch? He hasnt even won a championship game, nevermind a SB. He is a career 55% passer with more Ints than Td's. He had 1 winning playoff game where he stood out beating NE. Since then he has regressed and the first time around they leaned heavily on Shonn Green, he was the clutch player in those winning games.

Answer the question you coward. How are we defining clutch now? points scored? QBR? Must he win every game to be considered clutch? Or maybe just perform when it counts .

Football blasphemy. Trying to compare QBs from different generations is retarded and insincere. Especially when those 2 are HOF's.

Why would Kraft do that. Brady easily has 4 years left in him and is as likely if not more likely to win a SB than Radgers is. By that time Rodgers would be 35 himself. Plus a 1st, yeah, you know more about fotball, LOL.

 

Thank the Lord.

 

True, but that's why it's important to watch the games. Those who did saw that the only reason the Denver safety had a play on that Jacoby Jones touchdown was because Flacco badly underthrew it even though he had room to step into the throw. I don't know what the wind was like, so maybe that was a factor, but 55 yards in the air is not much. Jones almost had to stop to catch that pass. He also did stop and almost fell down as a result on the Super Bowl pass where he was wide ass open. Both were bad throws. Meanwhile the Torrey Smith touchdown over Champ Bailey wasn't a bad throw, but it needed a spectacular effort by Smith to be a completion instead of an interception. Flacco also had some throws during that playoff run that were simply dropped by defenders. And how many times did Anquan Boldin pluck a ball out of the air to make a ridiculous catch? Note that I am not saying that Joe Flacco played poorly during the playoffs. He was solid, which is all that Baltimore needed him to be. But he wasn't great.

You point to playoff stats as evidence of someone being "clutch," but then you pretend that they don't say the same thing about Sanchez. As I said, few QBs have a winning record in the playoffs. He does. Even fewer have a higher playoff QB rating than his 94.3. The problem is that you're not consistent. You want to pretend the numbers mean something when you want and then mean nothing when it's inconvenient for your argument.

lol. Being a "clutch" player means stepping up and performing at your best in high pressure situations like the playoffs. As noted, Eli lost in the first round most of the time he's reached the playoffs. As noted, Flacco's completion percentage and QB rating gets lower in the playoffs than it was during the regular season (true for almost every QB, though, since you generally face better defenses). You pointed to stats, but then you wanted to ignore the ones for Mark Sanchez because you knew that completely undermined your entire argument. The reality is that neither Joe Flacco or Eli Manning played like elite quarterbacks during their playoff runs. They simply did not. Anyone who watched the games saw them get lucky and saw their receivers make the numbers look good by turning wobbly passes into completions.

Joe Namath and Terry Bradshaw weren't even elite quarterbacks for their eras.

Dude, Aaron Rodgers is not only six years younger than Brady but is more accurate, a much better deep passer, and more athletic. So yeah, the Pats would trip over themselves in the hypothetical scenario of trading Brady plus a first for Rodgers.

 

That's awesome.

 

Lots of ifs, ands or buts.


The facts are in Flaccos SB run he had 1140 yards, 11 TD 0 Ints and a 117 rating. During Eli's SB runs he had over 2000 yards, 15 TD'd and 2 Ints for about a 99 rating.


You couldnt really ask for more from your QB's

Actually no, I pointed to their performances in the SB. You're the one that made it about Sanchez' carreer playoff record. I said Flacco and Eli were clutch because of their performances in the most important games of their careers, the SB. Then you whined about Flaccos and Elis carreer QBR playoff rating, yet completely ignoring their superior stats in all 3 combined SB runs.

You know who else had a winning playoff record, Jake Delhomme.

You suggest Sanchez is clutch because of his playoff QBR, yet he hasnt actually won a damn thing and is about to be replaced as the starting QB.
Seriously, mister Butt fumble had more picks than Td's in his career. Why on earth would you even suggest he is clutch?

You mean like the SB? The most important game of all.

You are retarded. So does Brady now suck since he lost his last 2 SB appearances? You cant win them all my friend.

You are blasphemous.

You are dilusional.

 

Dumervil wants to go to Miami. So do I.

I'm always surprised that more FAs don't go there, even if it means taking less money. What a life that would be.

 

All true, and yet anyone who watches the actual games knows that those two guys didn't play great games.

Except to not lose in the first round most of the time. Must be a Manning thing.

You didn't start talking just about the Super Bowl until I pointed out that they've stunk in other parts of the playoffs and Sanchez has been better in the playoffs (plus, Eli's 87.3 qb rating in the first Super Bowl isn't exactly great). You're trying to pick what applies and what doesn't because you know you're full of crap but don't want to admit it.

No, I suggest that your criteria for "clutch" is obviously self-serving and inaccurate. I'm pointing out that you call Flacco and Eli "clutch" for stats where Sanchez has been even better during the playoffs.

Well at least you're starting to make me laugh instead of giving me a headache.

 

It's sort of like the feeling of working all week and being broke as soon as you get paid, and it all went to bills and not fun stuff.

 

Ugh, I can relate to that.