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Derrick Rose

Discussion in 'Charlotte Hornets' started by PantherPaul, Feb 26, 2012.

  1. gottalaff

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    he's not really hurt. the bulls just feel they have a better chance winning without him. they still have Ribbadoo and Bowzer
     
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  4. Collin

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    yup.
     
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    nice find. perhaps you're finally learning a thing or two about basketball.

    "The Bulls ran those plays for Boozer for a reason, though: He is skilled enough and threatening enough to shift defenses a bit his way, creating space for others. Some of those open jumpers that power forward Taj Gibson got flashing to the foul line or hanging around the baseline, for instance, came in part because defenses converged on Boozer during pick-and-rolls or as Boozer slithered around picks near the rim. Point guard C.J. Watson got open looks down the stretch of Game 4 because Philadelphia was more worried about containing Boozer on the roll. Sixers forward Thaddeus Young was late helping on Luol Deng’s “and-one” play late in the third quarter Thursday in part because he had to think twice about leaving Boozer near the basket.

    These things happen, if you care to look, and they have real value to an offense that isn’t exactly teeming with dangerous players beyond Rose. Despite missing Rose for nearly half the season, Chicago built a top-10 offense largely on the back of two versatile big men, Boozer and Joakim Noah, who screen, pass and move around the floor in smart ways. Then Rose got hurt, and Noah joined him on the sideline, and it all fell apart, with Boozer as the fall guy."


    pretty obvious that boozer adds to the team.
     
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    Hilarious. That article talks about how Boozer might get amnestied and you try to spin it as positive thing because you can't ever admit to being wrong about anything.
     
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    might get amnestied? holy shit, that's got to be the stupidest thing i've ever heard. there is no chance at all that carlos boozer gets amnestied. not unless he cripples himself or something.

    that articles points out the very things i was pointing out about carlos boozer and how he fits in with the bulls. it points out how he helps the team and how simply being on the court makes the bulls offense better. did you not even read the article you posted?

    and fwiw, i've never stated the bulls couldn't do better than carlos boozer, i stated he was a significant component to them leading the league in wins last year (and it seems pretty obvious this year, too). if they'd signed bosh or lebron or wade, then *they* would have been the guys who contributed. the point i was making was that lotto teams don't attract the top free agents. the bulls made the playoffs before boozer signed. if they were a 30-win team, chances are good he'd have signed someplace else and the bulls would have either not signed anybody at all or had to throw the same money at even worse options.
     
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    You're such a dishonest piece of shit. The title of that column is "Dump Carlos Boozer? It’s complicated," so yes, it's about whether or not the Bulls should amnesty Boozer.

    Some of the lowlights:
    "The 30-year-old power forward wasn’t really bad until Game 6 on Thursday, when he shot just 1-of-11 and sat the last 16 minutes as coach Tom Thibodeau rode the same lineup into the ground."

    "That “fall guy” status is not totally undeserved. Boozer took seven foul shots in six games, and his chronically soft finishing ability came back to haunt Chicago at the worst times. He piled up a playoff-high 23 turnovers, dropping passes, losing the ball near the basket or just throwing it into the stands. He missed so, so many mid-range jumpers.

    His defense was as plodding and flat-footed as ever. The Sixers went after him in pick-and-rolls, knowing even their so-so ball-handlers could tap-dance around Boozer’s stationary “help” defense. Boozer has never been a good defender, aside from his rebounding, and he’s never going to be.
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    "The Bulls have been the best defensive team in the league for two seasons running while starting Carlos Boozer. They were much better defensively with Boozer on the bench in each of those seasons, and while that stat does tell us something about Boozer, it probably tells us more about the quality of the Gibson/Omer Asik combination and the damage those two can do against opposing backups. The Bulls allowed 89.8 points per 100 possessions without Boozer this season, a number that would have led the league by miles. With Boozer? They yielded 98.9 points per 100 possessions, a number that would have ranked about fifth. It’s possible the Bulls would be better off without Boozer."
     

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