Corner

Jesus Christ.

I think it's obvious that we need defense across the board on all positions, and that we need to continue to improve our offense, and that Collin doesn't know shit about the draft.

Why make it more complicated than that.

If an OT is the best we got on the board at 8 or 9, take him. If it's a DT, take him. If it's a corner, safety, take him.

Man, we suck. We were 6-10.

Draft BPA and try to fill holes.

 

We need a couple of impact players on D. We have enough otherwise.

Don't agree on OT. If Otah comes back, which I believe he will, then an OT will sit on the bench. I think it that would make as much sense as drafting a QB with the first pick because he is the BPA.

Ideally we get either a DT or CB with the first pick. The DT comes with risk because you'd be betting on potential but I like that better than drafting a DT that doesn't have a high ceiling. The couple of CBs comes with character issues. I don't think you use a top 10 pick on a G. Coples would be an option if he falls but I don't think he will. WR? In the past I woulda have said they are too risky to use a a top 10 pick but with the new rookie scale ... that might not be the case any more. I really like the looks of Blackmon should he fall to us.

To me, ideally the draft would go DT, CB, Safety in that order.

 

I was a fan of taking Otah, but taking him has not proved to be a good decision. I hate to call him a pussy, but he doesn't seem to be very tough.

If he can play, fine, but I would absolutely not let Jeff Otah influence me out of OT if that's how things fall.

 

I know how angry you are at me for making you feel so stupid, but let it go. People are interested in what I have to say, not you. That's always been true and always will be, so bitching about it just makes you look bitter.

Otah could slide inside to RG. At the time of the draft there were concerns about his weight and lateral agility that caused many to project him as a future G anyway. If the Panthers take Reiff at 8/9 then I'm down with that. It would upgrade the line for now, and hopefully also hasten the eventual departure of Gross.

Hogan was a fourth round pick who has given to indication thus far that he'll be anything, Butler is someone I liked out of Connecticut but really looked bad for the Panthers, and Munnerlyn clearly can't be a starting corner. So yeah, it's a pretty big need. I would have preferred to address it in free agency, but unfortunately the many opportunities to add a solid young starter were ignored by Marty Dumbass. If Claiborne falls to 8/9 then I could see the Panthers going for that, and Kirkpatrick could be an option as well, especially if they trade down. Even assuming they don't select CB in the 1st, I wouldn't be surprised to see one in the 2nd. Dennard or Minnifield would be nice, although I don't expect Dennard to fall that far.

 

Hogan was a 4th round pick, due to baggage and the injury. I think many had a second-round grade on him based on his play alone.

What then do you make of Meeks' firing? It seems that every DB we had except Gamble underperformed. Can the change make a difference?

As for Otah at RG, it would be a bit easier on the knees.

 

Sir there are boys scouts in the audience.

 

I would say corner is our biggest need right now. We've needed a #2 corner since last offseason and we never signed or drafted one. Don't give up on Hogan just yet, we drafted him knowing he wouldn't be 100% healthy until late in the season.
The problem w/not drafting a CB in the 1st round is that we would probably have to reach for a CB in the 2nd round.

 

that would be the one pick that would totally piss me off. even if Otah doesn't come back in top form, using that pick on a RT strikes me as awful. i'd much rather take the G.

that has as much chance of happening asTannehill being the 1st pick in the draft

I wouldn't be upset because of the need and lack of any great alternatives but i'm not of fan of Kirkpatrick.

Any Gs, WRs or LBs that you'd like with that 2nd pick if a good CB isn't there?

 

I don't know why. Reiff is strong enough to play RT for now but is definitely LT quality as well. It's not a big need, but he's a damn good player and well worth the pick. Now if they take one of the lesser OTs, yeah I'd be pissed.

He could definitely fall to 8/9. He probably won't, but there aren't that many teams at the top who would prioritize a corner over the other options.

I don't want any G, WR, or LB in the 2nd round. Since you don't have a third, you really have to hit a need with the 2nd.

Some might have, but most didn't. 3rd or 4th is where he should have gone even if completely healthy. He is not an elite corner prospect.

 

Dammit... I have to agree with Collin.

I'm not a fan of the Corners at the top of this draft. Claiborne could be a possibility but I don't see him being at 8 or 9, and while Kirkpatrick could be an option, he doesn't exactly excite me as a pick.

Reiff would be a solid pick at 8/9. While I know that's not a "pressing" need, solid starting OT are VERY VERY hard to find. Wharton will probably be cut, and Reiff is available possibly Otah as well. If not Otah could push for a G spot. Gross may only have a few more years left before the wheels fall off and I'd rather have a replacement in the waiting first.

My first choice would be DT but really there's no one there that wows me in the first round. Considering its a deep DT draft, but not top heavy something more can be found in later rounds.

I do agree with what someone said... I'm too lazy to look... that Safety should eb considered a need. I'm not promoting that Munnerlyn start by any means, but it was nearly as bad at Safety as it was with Munnerlyn. He at least seemed to be trying. Can you think of one good Godfrey play all year?