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Bobcats 2012

Discussion in 'Charlotte Hornets' started by dig-it, Dec 23, 2011.

  1. dig-it

    dig-it Wait'n On That Post Rookie Deal

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    Bismack gets a double double. Whats the world coming to?
     
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    see, i would call that not being aggressive. but you also have to keep in mind that diaw is 6'8" and not tremendously athletic. it's not like he's going to back his man down and dunk on him. his only real post move is coming across the lane and putting up a running hook.

    in regards to his pass to dj, was it a bad pass or did dj miss an open jumper? if dj is open, it's a pretty basic concept in basketball to throw the ball down low and then kick it out to open shooters if the big doesn't have a good look. usually it's predicated on the defense doubling the post player, but like i said, diaw would usually rather pass to an open player than shoot an open shot, must less shoot a semi contested shot. to me, that's simply not being aggressive.
     
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    D.J. was open enough to get the pass and get off a shot, although it missed badly. It also wasn't an inside out type play by any stretch, in fact if I recall correctly D.J. seemed a little suprised to get the ball. Diaw wasn't being doubled, and he had the advantage over the man guarding him. In other words, it was a situation where I'd expect a power forward to take a shot, not make a no look pass (and I really can't emphasize enough that he went out of his way to make a no look pass). The next time down the court was virtually the same situation, except he took and made the shot, which says to me that he could have done the same thing the time before but chose not to. The no look pass tells me that he was specifically thinking assist in that situation instead of making a play, or in this case even taking what the defense was giving him.
     
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    so he passed the ball to an open man instead of taking his own shot. that is pretty much what i mean -- he's not aggressive. he defers to others too often. when he gets good looks and takes them, i don't care if they're 3's, mid-range jumpers, running hooks, put backs, etc.

    but i do think he's a solid playmaker. when he sets up at the high post and people are moving, he generally makes the right pass to a guy for good scoring opportunities. mullens, by contrast, looks really uncomfortable in that position. if he doesn't have a shot, he needs a guard to pretty much come get the ball from him.
     
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    dig-it Wait'n On That Post Rookie Deal

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    Still making the same mistakes. Whats the over and under on wins this year,11?
     
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    Draft Pick Debt

    Draft picks are the grease when it comes to trades. They carry no actual value as to whether or not a trade works under CBA rules, but they are the sweet bits of chocolate that can coerce another team into saying yes. Some teams horde their picks, picking them up from other teams as much as possible. Other teams view draft picks as simply a means to an end, preferring to trade them for proven talents.

    Here is a list of all future draft picks that have been traded. This broken down by year and round, with the team receiving the pick named followed by where the pick comes from detailed. Questions, comments, or think we missed one? Leave them in the comments below!

    2012

    First-Round Picks

    Boston Celtics: Receives 2012 first-round pick (top-10 protected through 2015) from the L.A. Clippers via the Oklahoma City Thunder via the Kendrick Perkins trade on 2/24/11.

    Chicago Bulls: Receives 2012 first-round pick (lottery-protected in 2012, top-12 protected in 2013, top-10 in 2014, top-8 in 2015, unprotected in 2016) from the Charlotte Bobcats via the Tyrus Thomas trade on 2/18/10.

    Cleveland Cavaliers: Have option to swap first-round picks with Miami via the Lebron James trade on 7/9/10. Receives 2012 first-round pick (top-14 protected in 2012, top-13 protected in 2013, top-12 protected in 2014, top-10 protected 2015-17; if not conveyed by 2017, receives 2017 second-round pick) via the J.J. Hickson trade on 6/30/11.

    Houston Rockets: Receives 2012 first-round pick (top-5 protected through 2015) from New York via Tracy McGrady trade on 2/18/10.

    Los Angeles Clippers: Receives Minnesota’s 2012 first-round pick via Sam Cassell trade on 8/15/05.

    Minnesota Timberwolves: Receives Utah’s 2012 first-round pick (top-14 protected in 2012, top-12 protected in 2013, top-9 protected from right to swap in 2014, else 2014 second-round pick) via the Al Jefferson trade on 7/13/10.

    New Jersey Nets: Receives Houston’s 2012 first-round pick (top-14 protected through 2016) via the Terrence Williams trade on 12/15/10.

    Oklahoma City Thunder: Receives L.A. Clippers’ 2012 first-round pick (top-10 protected through 2015, unprotected in 2016) via Eric Bledsoe trade on 6/24/10. Thunder receives less favorable of Clippers’ pick or Minnesota’s, if Minnesota’s 2011 first-round pick is not conveyed to the Clippers due to protection (see above).

    Utah Jazz: Receives Golden State’s 2012 first-round pick (top-7 protected in 2012 and 2013, top-6 protected in 2014, else 2014 and 2016 second-round picks) via Utah (from the Marcus Williams trade on 9/29/09) from the Deron Williams trade on 2/23/11.

    Second-Round Picks

    Atlanta Hawks:Receives Phoenix’s 2012 second-round pick via the Josh Childress trade on 7/12/10.

    Cleveland Cavaliers: Receives New Orleans’ 2012 second-round pick via Miami from the LeBron James trade on 7/9/10.

    Dallas Mavericks: Receives Minnesota’s 2012 second-round pick (top-55 protected) via the Nathan Jawai trade on 10/20/09.

    Denver Nuggets: Receives Golden State’s 2012 second-round pick via New York via the Carmelo Anthony trade on 2/22/11.

    Detroit Pistons: Receives Houston’s 2012 second-round pick (top-40 protected in 2012, top-35 protected in 2013-14) via the Chase Budinger trade on 6/25/09.

    Golden State Warriors: Receives New Jersey’s 2012 second-round pick via the Troy Murphy trade on 2/23/11.

    Houston Rockets: Receives Minnesota’s 2012 second round pick (31-55 only) via the Brad Miller trade on 6/23/11.

    L.A. Lakers: Receives Chicago’s 2012 second-round pick (cash option) via New Jersey (via Milwaukee from the Chris Douglas-Roberts trade on 6/23/10) via the Sasha Vujacic trade on 12/15/10.

    Miami HEAT: Receives Memphis’ 2012 second-round pick (top-55 protected) via the Shaun Livingston trade on 1/7/09.

    New Jersey Nets: Receives Miami’s 2012 second-round pick via the Chris Quinn trade on 1/5/10.

    Phoenix Suns: Receives New York’s 2012 second-round pick (top-55 protected) via the Amar’e Stoudemire trade on 7/8/10.

    2013

    First-Round Picks

    Charlotte Bobcats: Receives Portlands 2013 first-round pick (top-12 protected through 2015) via the Gerald Wallace trade on 2/24/11.

    Cleveland Cavaliers: Receives Miami’s 2013 first-round pick (top-10 protected through 2014) via the LeBron James trade on 7/9/10.

    Minnesota Timberwolves: Receives Memphis’ 2013 first-round pick (top-14 protected through 2016) via Houston via the Shane Battier trade on 2/24/11.

    Second-Round Picks

    Atlanta Hawks: Receives conditional 2011 second-round pick (top-40 protected through 2016) from Houston via the David Andersen trade on 7/14/09.

    Boston Celtics: Receives Minnesota’s 2013 second-round pick (via Boston from the Delonte West trade on 7/26/10) via the Luke Harangody trade on 2/24/11.

    Cleveland Cavaliers: Receives Orlando’s 2013 second-round pick via the Justin Harper trade on 6/23/11.

    Denver Nuggets: Receives Golden State’s 2013 second-round pick via New York via the Carmelo Anthony trade on 2/22/11.

    Detroit Pistons: Receives L.A. Clippers 2013 second-round pick (top-55 protected) via the Alex Acker trade on 2/16/09.

    L.A. Lakers: Receives Memphis’ 2013 second-round pick (top-55 protected) via the Chris Mihm trade on 2/18/09.

    Minnesota Timberwolves: Receives New Jersey’s 2013 second-round pick via the Bojan Bogdanovic trade on 6/23/11.

    Utah Jazz: Receives Chicago’s 2013 second-round pick via the Carlos Boozer trade on 7/8/10.

    2014

    First-Round Picks

    Denver Nuggets: Receives New York’s 2014 first-round pick (first possible pick they can send after conveying their 2012 first-round pick to Houston – see above) via the Carmelo Anthony trade on 2/22/11.

    Second-Round Picks

    Boston Celtics: Receives New Jersey’s 2014 second-round pick via the JaJuan Johnson trade on 6/23/11.

    Cleveland Cavaliers: Receives Orlando’s 2014 second-round pick via the Justin Harper trade on 6/23/11.

    Denver Nuggets: Receives future second round pick from Memphis via the Steven Hunter trade on 8/7/09.

    Miami HEAT: Receives Minnesota’s 2014 second-round pick via the Michael Beasley trade on 7/12/10.

    Minnesota Timberwolves: Receives New Orleans’ 2014 second-round pick via the Darius Songaila trade on 9/9/09.

    New York Knicks: Receives Boston’s 2014 second-round pick (top-55 protected) via the Nate Robinson trade on 2/18/10.

    San Antonio Spurs: Receives L.A. Clippers’ 2014 second-round pick (top-55 protected) via the New Orleans Hornets via the Curtis Jerrells trade on 10/17/10.

    2015

    First-Round Picks

    Cleveland Cavaliers: Receives Miami’s 2015 first-round pick (top-10 protected through 2017) via the Lebron James traded on 7/9/10.

    Second-Round Picks

    Boston Celtics: Receives Sacramento’s 2015 second-round pick (top-55 protected) via the Sam Cassell trade on 2/17/09.

    Denver Nuggets: Receives L.A. Clippers 2015 second-round pick (top-55 protected) via the Cheikh Samb trade on 1/5/09.

    Houston Rockets: Receives L.A. Clippers 2015 second-round pick (51-55 only) via Toronto from the Hassan Adams trade on 1/7/09.

    Minnesota Timberwolves: Receives Denver’s 2015 second-round pick via the Kosta Koufos trade on 2/22/11.

    New Orleans Hornets: Receives Memphis’ 2015 second-round pick via Javaris Crittenton trade on 12/10/08. Memphis can choose to send $350k instead.

    2016

    First-Round Picks

    Denver Nuggets: Receives rights to swap 2016 first-round picks with New York via the Carmelo Anthony trade on 2/22/11.

    Second-Round Picks

    Denver Nuggets: Receives Memphis’ 2016 second-round pick (top-55 protected) via the Stephen Hunter trade on 8/7/09.

    Memphis Grizzlies: Receives Toronto’s 2016 second-round pick via the Shawn Marion trade on 7/9/09.

    New Orleans Hornets: Receives L.A. Clippers 2016 second-round pick (top-55 protected) via the Rasual Butler trade on 8/12/09. Receives Sacramento’s 2016 second-round pick via the Hilton Armstrong trade on 1/11/10.

    San Antonio Spurs: Receives Charlotte’s 2016 second-round pick (top-55 protected) via the Theo Ratliff trade on 2/18/10.

    2017

    Second-Round Picks

    Boston Celtics: Receives Sacramento’s 2017 second-round pick via the Marquis Daniels trade on 2/24/11.

    2012

    First-Round Picks

    Boston Celtics: Receives 2012 first-round pick (top-10 protected through 2015) from the L.A. Clippers via the Oklahoma City Thunder via the Kendrick Perkins trade on 2/24/11.

    Chicago Bulls: Receives 2012 first-round pick (lottery-protected in 2012, top-12 protected in 2013, top-10 in 2014, top-8 in 2015, unprotected in 2016) from the Charlotte Bobcats via the Tyrus Thomas trade on 2/18/10.

    Cleveland Cavaliers: Have option to swap first-round picks with Miami via the Lebron James trade on 7/9/10. Receives 2012 first-round pick (top-14 protected in 2012, top-13 protected in 2013, top-12 protected in 2014, top-10 protected 2015-17; if not conveyed by 2017, receives 2017 second-round pick) via the J.J. Hickson trade on 6/30/11.

    Houston Rockets: Receives 2012 first-round pick (top-5 protected through 2015) from New York via Tracy McGrady trade on 2/18/10.

    Los Angeles Clippers: Receives Minnesota’s 2012 first-round pick via Sam Cassell trade on 8/15/05.
     
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    dig-it Wait'n On That Post Rookie Deal

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    Things were lined up right for a win. The Bobcats had a team come into Charlotte on a 6 game losing streak and their coach under pressure.
    Then it happens, Charlotte plays like it was their first time playing together and get blown out by 33 points. WTH?
     
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    They need to get as many minutes as they can for the younger guys they plan to build around. This is a throw away season so make the most out of it. Walker, Bismack, Henderson, Thomas and Mullens need to play a lot. Diaw and DJ not so much.
     
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    halftime vs. the wizards,cats have scored 28 points.

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