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Discussion in 'Carolina Panthers' started by meatpile, Jan 2, 2012.

  1. Abusive

    Abusive Fuck yo blanket

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    I wonder if former Baltimore Ravens head coach, Super Bowl Champion, current FOX NFL Sunday and NFL Network analyst, motivational speaker and proud American Brian Billick has any thoughts on the potential opening for a new offensive coordinator in Carolina?
     
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    It's hard to say with Billick. In Minn he had Moss and Carter plus Robert Smith and a OL full of studs. Was it him or the players? He never had a great offense in Baltimore. Seems a litttle too high maintainence for Charlotte.
     
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    What good does that do?
     
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    doesn't keep him from head coaching jobs, but it's a little ego boost and more money.

    While we're on it, it's bizarre that Wilks, who was named assistant head coach last year with the Chargers, wasn't required to sign an additional year or two to get it. It's like, "here's more responsibility, but you're free to go if you want." It's unlike teams and coaches to not extend contracts when you get to one year anyway, though Norv's status certainly made that tenuous.
     
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    Used to be, position coaches who could get a legit opportunity would be free to leave. The era of the West Coast Offense fucked that up a few times over:
    *guys like Mike Shanahan would leave, and just take coaches with him.
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    *guys like Mike Holmgren would take one assistant and call him the coordinator, while he called the plays himself; his QBs coach would do the rest of the prep for gameplanning and the OC was essentially just a guy who ran the offense administratively. So you could pick up a guy as a position coach, call him a coordinator, but is it really a big change?


    now, all assistants are assistants. You can leave if you're fired/your staff is fired, or you run out your contract like Chud and Wilks did. In the early part of the last decade, when those rules changed, I was surprised more coaches didn't engage in free agency. Charlie Weis did, among others, because Parcells was supposed to come back (and didn't because of the tampering mess).

    But, most coaches haven't. We saw it here in 08 where guys were allowed to leave, but that was because Fox might've known he was doomed. If I were an esteemed coach, I'd let the contract work out, and move forward with options. I'm surprised that, after the grumbles about it during the labor issues, that assistant coaches never unionized. Probably because they can't bring head coaches with them, who have to remain a lot more loyal to their clubs. The stability of keeping an assistant under most situations is also probably helpful to them, moreso than their assistants, who don't have a lot of rights.



    Personally, I believe that Assistant Head Coaches should, when possible, be position coaches of extraordinary merit, not just an extra title for a coordinator. A coordinator has far too much to deal with on a daily basis to worry about the lower ranking problems within a head coach's responsibility.

    We got funky with that in Seifert's tenure. Marshall was AHC on defense, and they promoted Williamson in 2000 as a way of helping out Musgrave (it didn't help, and he should've had a real QBs coach, too, not an intern), so eventually you had two and both were coordinators. Still better than that Joe Gibbs Associate HC/Assistant HC/Senior assistant nonsense. Or while I'm bitching, the run/pass game coordinator stuff.
     
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    Yeah that's right... Fox told his coaches back then to do whatever... forgot about all that drama back then too, adds up
     
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    Any news here??? Hadn't heard any buzz from Chud's interviews with the Bucs earlier this week...
     

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