McDermott

Lol. Yeah, I root against the Jets because of my ex.

I disconnect it fine. I don't yell, I just get really fucking mad. I don't imagine it'll ever change.

As far as Hurney goes, I think with the Cam pick, he bought himself several more years here.

 

more recently, firing his sons was a good clue. This offseason he finally let on that he's not the only owner, he's just the one in charge, that he has to answer to others. That he doesn't scout undrafted free agents doesn't mean that he didn't tell Hurney and staff to get on an airplane and go get Charles Johnson at all costs. Hell, Deshaun Foster in the hospital cost us a lot of money way back when, for fuck's sake.

 

We are better offensively than last year, certainly, but we are not a juggernaught in scoring offense. Right now we are 19th in points per game, so less than average. We are much higher rated in yards per game. But the yards aren't leading to points due to mistakes by a young team. Same mistakes made last year. Red zone efficency, penalties, bad special teams. Same things happened last year. It's not scheme, no scheme tells someone to line up a yard off the line of scrimage or hold unecessarily.

We haven't played smart enough. I don't see huge game day coaching or scheme mistakes. Maybe our preparation is lousy, and that's on coaching, but players still need to be held accountable.

 

I figured this out the other day: I watch every Panthers game from start to finish...no matter what. Since the start of last season, I've watched 25 games and seen them win 4 times. That's terrible.

 

Agree that players need to be held accountable, no doubt. At this point, I think everyone does, from the top on down. Two back to back lousy seasons should never be acceptable, but that's what we're dealing with right now.

I just want to see areas of improvement. I want to see us not rest on what's happening, and say, well we're not talented enough. It's like you said - the same mistakes keep cropping up, over and over and over. I can't understand why that isn't getting corrected. And I'm trying to figure out why we seem to be getting a little worse as the season progresses, as we went against a stretch of bad to mid level teams.

 

So would you agree that my criticism of Newton's performance in the red zone has been valid all this time and not at all because I'm rooting for him to fail?

 

He's had red zone struggles, particuarly earlier in the year. He was pretty good in the red zone vs Minnesota and the Redskins, and he's accounted on the year for plenty of touchdowns. It's a valid criticism but he's not been god awful either.

We'd be better in the red zone, and overall, if we cut out the penalties. Its discipline. 73 yards a game in penalties. We'd have to cut out 20 yards just to get to the league average.

Green Bay, BTW, only averages 35 yards in penalties a game.

 

I'll be honest with you in hopes that it doesn't start a 14 page argument again. I do think you root for him to fail, because I think you're wired to want to be right all the time. You're one of the only guys on here who will drag a semantical argument into the ground and even beat it down posthumously.

It makes you a fierce debater, and it makes you worthwhile to read, even though I don't agree with you sometimes. But that's how I look at it, and if I'm being honest about it, I truly believe you'r rather Cam Newton fail than succeed so you can be right in the end.

You've said time and time again you're not a diehard Carolina Panthers fan. So it's not like I see you just rooting for the guy.

One could argue the same thing about me and McDermott. While I hope he succeeds, I don't like him. I think he's a fucking clown, and if our defense ever surges into being a dominant group, I will feel embarrassed that I called him out as much as I did.

I also think you laid too much on Cam. It wasn't all him. He was, as a matter of fact, a very small part of our struggles there.

 

Ok cool, I just wanted to check if you were still full of shit and you clearly are. You accused me of lying and then had to admit that you were the one who had been wrong. You accused me of unfairly criticizing Cam and then had to admit that the offense really hasn't been great and that everyone including Newton has been responsible.

I get it, I really do. You accuse me of rooting against Newton not only because it's convenient for your argument, but because that's the type of thing you do. You root for the defense to fail because you don't like McDermott. But sooner or later you need to realize that I am not like you. Not only am I far superior intellectually, but I'm also more honest. Your mind can't comprehend what my mind is like, so you think my mind has the same flaws that yours does. It doesn't. I don't spin and I don't pull for things to happen to validate myself. I call things as I see them.


edit:
To give an example of me potentially being wrong, I supported the Rivera hire and I am expressing doubt about that. I don't care about being "right" in the past, I care about being right in the present. I also thought DeMarco Murray was a bad third round pick and nothing more than a backup running back, but that doesn't look correct so far. I need to watch a Dallas game to see why I was wrong, though.

 

Yeah, I figured that would hurt your feelings.

Sorry.