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but the statement is supposed to be things Richardson wasn't otherwise going to do. Choking incident is worth a fire at a much higher record. "Due to fan pressure", not "due to fan pressure but inevitable and likely anyway."

 

I never said Hurney didn't intend on re-signing in-house. Remember, this is where you would go all "OMG LIAER!!!11 you have to exaggerate becasuse blahblahblahblah" but it never stops you from doing it. #honesty #notdeflectionatall



I showed guys we talked to. You think we talked to Malcolm Floyd about painting park benches? That you want to write off "uncorroborated" things like Braylon Edwards - when he was a player you wanted - is fine, but we signed outside players and talked to more. By your own account you have absolutely no idea who contacted who, so I have no idea why you would pretend we didn't talk to outside players (some of which we signed), and pretend we didn't talk to players we're supposed to have talked to - or pretend we know exactly who we talked to. #honesty #notdeflectionatall

it was to create cap space, and by Richardson's words, to get young players on the field.

You're always great for a laugh. The idea that your 'tactics' aren't ridiculous, is ridiculous. I'm not deflecting that, and I don't think saying "sorry about that" is a personal attack or "talking behind someone's back." #honesty

And you, just like everything else, just happen to say what's idiotic and what's not, right? Judge in your own trial? That's "intellectually honest" - "I vote in favor of myself! I couldn't do that for my own good!"

nope. It's a stupid fucking argument, but it was interesting seeing how long you'd pretend you'd trapped me instead of talking about sweeps. I didn't anticipate you'd be bitter and angry about it for years, but then there's only one person that really was going to give thought to it after it was done. And not because of "honesty".

No, I totally agree. But this is what you want, 100% - distraction. Once I "dare to cross you", it's time to make it about something else. #honesty #notdeflectionatall



But what would be nice is if you could at least keep up enough of the facade to pretend you care about the topic more than whining about how awful I am for disagreeing.

 

Except for Delhomme all those guys are good players who we are better having on the team than we are without them. I do not agree with everything Hurney has done this off season. I would not have extended Davis until I saw if he was going to hold up. I would not have kept DW. I would not have cut Kasay or signed Mare.

 

I don't have any idea what point you think you're trying to make. Yes, there were multiple legitimate reasons to fire Capers that had nothing to do with fan opinion. The same is true for Hurney. Richardson has shown that he is sensitive to fan opinion and will respond to that even more than poor job performance.

Ugh. My point is precisely that you said Hurney did intend to spend huge money to extend the 2-14 roster. That was the plan all along. There was never any real intention to be a big player in free agency, they just wanted to lock up the players they already had. I obviously think that was a huge mistake, and it's undeniable that they ended up paying a lot more than those players would have gotten from other teams, at least in the cases of Johnson, Williams, and Thomas Davis. Beason is the one who might have gotten that much on the open market.

Because:
#1) The Panthers had a shitload of money to spend, but came back with Olindo Mare and Ron Edwards. If they were serious about signing outside players, then obviously they would have.

#2) You said yourself that Hurney's plan all along was to spend that money keeping the roster together.

And the Panthers went through all that only to waste the cap space they created. That's why I'm frustrated as a fan.

Whether you want to pretend that you dragged it out for pages because it was fun, or if you actually admit that you were scared shitless of specifying what you meant by a "handful" and then getting proven wrong, the reality is that still happened because you participated. You want to pretend like our bitchfests are all my fault, and that you want nothing to do with them. You just want to talk about football. Yeah, sure.

Is this the part where you pretend to be too oblivious to notice that I'm still talking about the topic with other people. It's funny that you simultaneously insist that I'm hung up on Hurney (which is true), and then saying right here that I'm only doing this as a distraction or to attack you. I keep posting because I'm furious that Hurney still has his job after all the damage he has done to the team. I'm also pissed that some people are dumb enough to believe that Hurney hasn't done a shitty job, and that some other people just pretend he hasn't because they think it's their job as a fan to support everything the team does.

And again, if you want to post about football, then post about football. You post about me because that's what you want to do. Take responsibility for your own actions.

 

God damn it, Thelt. Read this as many times as it takes until you understand it:

 

I don't necessarily agree he's "sensitive" to fan opinion more than he's going to do what he thinks is his best. I could argue he set them up to fail moreso than "caved to fan pressure".

of course. Richardson told you that. Doesn't mean they didn't contact more outside players than they signed. I gave some examples, but without first word of proof, that was dismissed.

So it's impossible that they could've attempted to sign midlevel FAs? I honestly have no idea, but that's the thing, I don't pretend to know that they were going to do only one thing.

"scared shitless"...OK, yeah. You were going to prove me wrong about what I meant. And then you don't get the ridiculousness.

I've suggested many times that they're not mutually exclusive. I'm not sure why they would be, or what you'd prove by suggesting so.

OK, I'll go back to talking about football and you can post just punctuation.

 

Fine, but he has reacted to it in the past, and Hurney has done far more than enough to get fired if he was being judged on job performance.

Spending what they did to extend guys already on the team took up all the money that was available. Since you and I both agree that it was the plan all along, clearly they never at any point intended to be serious players in free agency for outside talent. They would add nickel & dime type guys like Ron Edwards, and inexplicably spent big on Olindo Mare, but all the free agent lists we made up before the lockout ended were pointless because the team never had any intention of signing such players. If they wanted Mebane or Cofield, Hurney had plenty of cap room to go get them. Olindo Mare & Ron Edwards are all the Panthers have to show for free agency because they never intended to do more.

You didn't post for multiple pages refusing to specify what you meant by "a handful" because you were bored that week. You didn't give a number because you knew I had the information to prove it wrong.

Cool. I'm a narcissist, so I love talking about myself, but you whining about how you just want to post about football and then posting incessantly about me really is annoying.

 

If you're going on the idea that Hurney acted completely alone, without a plan from above, then maybe. If you think Jerry Richardson wanted a bunch of small one year deals then I don't know what to tell you.

and every deal they made was done first day? They never had the option to talk to anyone else while doing internal deals? Malcolm Floyd and Santana Moss suggest otherwise. No "honesty" in just assuming without either some sort of proof or admitting it's unlikely they talked to no one outside. I myself suggested that Carolina would not have trouble attracting outside free agents, but based on what I'm hearing, that's not correct (#unabletoadmiti'mwrong #stillwaitingforthe"never"proof)

you had proof of what number I meant? If so, provide that along with proof of me being "scared shitless".

 

Now it's officially fucking football season!!!!!

 

Sir, have some beer and be relax. I understand the cap game as well as anyone, and yes, it's a fuckfest. Does it suck that we never have any leverege? Yes. Does it suck that we have 5 playoff wins in 8 years? Better than many--could be better.

Send your complaints to the team's mailing address, found at www.panthers.com. Collin is right: JJR will read it.