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Panthers sign Ryan Kalil to six-year deal, making him NFL's highest-paid center

Discussion in 'Carolina Panthers' started by LarryD, Aug 19, 2011.

  1. Thelt

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    I will admit that you are know more about the NFL than I do. That does not mean you are always right. You were pimping Troy Smith and he has not done anything of note. If I remember right you were on the Jeff Lewis bandwagon too.

    I choose to believe we have put together a pretty solid core that will be successful with a decent QB. I may be wrong, I may not be. Time will tell and what you and I think about it will not matter at all.
     
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  3. Collin

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    I said Jeff Lewis looked good in practice and training camp, which he did, but some guys just can't handle game pressure. As for Troy Smith, he had his moments last season for the 49ers, and I still think he can be a solid starter. Same for Andre Woodson, who never got a chance. But sure, you're absolutely correct that I have been wrong before and will continue to be wrong in the future, I'm just saying it would be nice if me being correct so often would earn me the benefit of the doubt from you people. Hell, as noted repeatedly, we've actually all seen the results of these huge Hurney contracts before. It's how the team got in salary cap hell before this recent purge.

    You're already wrong. This roster went 2-14 for many reasons, not just Jimmy Clausen. Remember that the team was crap when Matt Moore played as well. It's so bizarre that you were adamantly opposed to taking Cam Newton before the draft, but suddenly in two games where he actually played poorly, you've somehow become convinced that he's enough to make the team a contender. I do not understand your brain.
     
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    For someone who claims to hate ignorance, you sure are toting a boatload of your own. Johnson has given plenty of interviews. Find one, just one, that substantiates your claims. Don't give us this ridiculous "one person posted it on a message board so it must be true" BS. I'm not embarassed but you should be for carrying on like a 3rd grader based on so little. Hell, you're even speculating that no one else had contacted Deangelo other than those two.

    What part of this do you not understand? You don't know how much cap space we have for either year. There is flexibility built into the cap for 2011 & 2012 that hasn't existed before and won't after. It can allow us to clear room if needed or desired. Look it up and quit whining just to whine.
     
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    Good lord. The ESPN link including the following passage:

    "Johnson said he was "blown away" by Carolina's offer and the money convinced him to choose Carolina over Atlanta and Denver. "Could you have turned that down?" Johnson said of the contract with a laugh."

    Johnson also posted this from his own Twitter account:

    "Atlanta back out they was scare of paying to much. They gonna see me twice a year! Bet that."

    So I guess you're going to claim that CJ's twitter account was hacked, or maybe that he's not a credible source regarding his own contract? How about that we've already established how Atlanta didn't even have enough cap room to sign CJ for anything close to what Carolina paid? And why exactly are you pretending that goodoleboy just completely made up what Johnson said on Sirius?

    It was widely reported by multiple NFL sources that the Broncos, Panthers, and Giants were the only ones after DeAngelo. The Giants told their beat writers that they were backing out because of the money, then Denver followed suit a day or so later.

    What are you talking about?
     
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    I am not sold on Cam at all. I hope he does well but he may not. I think most of my posts have had the caveat that I think the panthers will be good if they get solid play from the QB.

    All that aside though, you do not decide on whether to keep guys like CJ, Kalil, Beason, DW, etc based on whether or not your QB is any good. I think all those guys are solid guys you want to keep around and most of them are still young and should have many productive seasons left in them.
     
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    With Denver's stable of running backs, over paying for DeAngelo wouldn't have been a bad idea
     
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    Do you grasp that Hurney did this same exact thing with the Delhomme, Wharton, Gross, & Gamble contracts previously? It's not that CJ, Kalil, Beason, and DeAngelo are bad players. They're good players, but none of them are great. When you give top-5 contracts at their position to players who are good but not great, then you're making a huge mistake. There is only a certain amount of money available under the salary cap, and the more you overspend, the less you have to bring in additional talent. Look around at the free agent signings of other teams. Philadelphia signed all those players and did not give any player as much as Carolina gave to Charles Johnson. Do you think the Patriots would have given $35 million to a guy who missed the last two seasons with ACL injuries? Do you think the Steelers would have given $43 million to an injury-prone, 28 year old running back?
     
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