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If not a QB #1, what do we do for a QB?

Discussion in 'Carolina Panthers' started by meatpile, Apr 22, 2011.

  1. Odin

    Odin Full Access Member

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    Next year is going to be around 4-5 wins at best, so that'd put us back in the top 5 picks.

    We can either :

    A. Pick Newton ( who is 50/50 and a project) this year, and pick a top position player next year.
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    B. Pick the # 1 position player this year (Peterson/Dareus/Green), and pick a QB in the top 5 next year. (Luck , USC QB, OKLA QB, whoever).

    What's the better option ? I'd guess we won't be #1 next year (we're not that horrible), but I don't know the QB prospects well enough.
    So, Newton + DT next year < > USC QB + (say) AJ Green ?

    As for option C. (Pick position players both drafts, and try to find a QB through FE).
    I hate this for the long term solution, we just end up with another servicable QB (at best). If we want a franchise QB, we have to draft one. (just maybe not THIS year).
     
  2. stratocatter

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    Lol.

    Only guy I can think of (that's a Delhomme when we got him type) offhand is Hanie. Undrafted, made the squad, performed well in relief when called on.

    Not a UFA I don't believe but original tendered (originally undrafted).
     
  3. Collin

    Collin soap and water

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    Dude, do you read anything I write? Good lord. What you said is the opposite of the truth. There's not much difference in potential between Newton and a whole bunch of other QB talents. This draft is actually incredibly deep at QB, it just doesn't have any quarterbacks with elite potential.
     
  4. Collin

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    Hah, I just saw where Kiper & McShay both said Carolina shouldn't take a QB at #1.
     
  5. Abusive

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    Ponder would be the best prepared. Mallett has the fastball. Newton can extend the play. They're all different, some better suited than others. Bulger would be great, and again, I'm not opposed to Moore.
     
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    Thank god we don't have that #33 pick to clutter things up for us. Fucking Hurney.
     
  7. The Special One

    The Special One BALL HARD UNIVERSITY

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    Our starting QB next year: Armanti Edwards!
     
  8. LarryD

    LarryD autodidact polymath

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    uh...no. mcshay has gabbert as the top QB in his overall player rankings at #5. newton is at #15.
     
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    LarryD autodidact polymath

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    yeah -- plenty of more appropriate ways to better address the qb situation this year. i'm not yet sure that clausen (or even moore) can't be serviceable. i say bolster the team at other positions, give clausen a year to mature and go from there. you could bring in a guy like bulger to start and let clausen learn under him. tossing clausen -- or any rookie -- out there to sink or swim is tough. you can't compare what clausen was put into with a lame-duck coaching staff to what you've seen with other successful rookie QBs. im thinking that those rookie QBs came in when a coaching staff was fresh and they could build a team around a player, or find a QB that fit their system/existing personnel/philosophy.
     
  10. HeadCase

    HeadCase dazed and confused

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    Newt doesn't have elite potential? I agree he's worrisome and has a lot of work to do especially on his accuracy, but he doesn't have the potential? He's got the arm, grit, a quick and over-the-top motion, size, escapability, a good feel in the pocket, charisma, and supposedly enough smarts. I'm not trying to be argumentative. I didn't like the looks of him in the Orange Bowl because it looked to me like he'd be off-balanced and would just wing with a lotta zing passes in the general direction of receivers ... but I've been wrong before on players. But, he does seem to have potential to be very good and he seems to me to be the best bet by far of the lot, even though he may bust and you have to figure that at least a couple of these guys are going to turn out to be pretty good.

    I know you're the best QB guru around but even you have made mistakes, so at this point it is a question of opinion ... not "truth," unless you have a magical pipeline into the future. Granted your opinion is much more informed than mine, so that's why I ask you for it. Perhaps it would be fair to characterized my opinion as the opposite of any resemblance of intelligence. We could probably agree on that.

    I don't agree with the argument that we wait around for a year that there will be a franchise QB sitting at our spot. First, that might never happen and secondly our team needs a QB now. I don't agree with you on Clausen. I think he sucks and most of his teammates can't stand him. Someday, he might become less caustic but that's like betting on a whore to one day give you a free one.
     

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