Belicheck

It is true that spots are very rarely overruled. Normally it has to very clear that the player was well past, not at the line to gain. There have been some exceptions. There are some examples, Pittsburg/Baltimore from last year, where the ball was marked short of the goal and then overturned on replay. In that game, the referees had an overhead view not seen on TV that gave them an angle where they could tell that the ball crossed the plain. There may have been a such an angle here, but they did not show it.

Based on angles we were given in the broadcast, it would have been difficult to overturn, as Mike Pierra stated on NFL Network this week.

 

Hate to break it to you but the referee is the guy responsible for determining forward progress and the final ball spot on every play. He often relies on input from the head linesman but the end decision is his.

 

I never said it was a first down, Dipshit. I said the spot was bad and it was. I only said it was probably closer than the spot.

 

Hate to break it to you but just because the final decision is his, he rarely changes the spot given by the line judge or other official, except in a review. He mostly places the ball based on the spotting officials word.

In this case the LJ made the spot and the referee placed the ball where he spotted it.

Keep googling and stalk on.

 

The spot of the ball is reviewable and has been adjusted after review plenty of times. Stick to micro brews, that's your gig.

 

oh man, burn.
BTW, feel free to ignore everything else everyone's already said about the spot.

And that it wasn't a first down.

 

The LJ wasn't anywhere near that play. The head linesman indicated where he felt the forward progress stopped. The referee, though he could have adjusted it, chose not to.

Go do a little research of your own on the responsibilites of nfl officiating crews. If you use a bright enough lamp, you may even be able to read with your head that far up your ass.


PS: Here's an even better idea. Get a screen shot of this LineJudge of yours spotting that ball. We can send it to the NFL as evidence that the crew was screwed up because he was WAY out of position.

 

Hey shitforbrains, The LJ and the Head Linesman mirror each other on opposite sides of the field at the line of scrimmage for the snap and have many of the same responsibilities.

They are responsible for the forward progress of the recievers on their side of the field until the recievers are about 10 yards upfield at which time they are passed off.

It was one of the 2 depending which side of the field they were on. It was either the HL or LJ that made the spot. On that play a referee would almost never adjust the spot without replay because he is in the offensive backfield when the ball is thrown.

The referee does place the ball but the forward progress is determined by other officials unless the play occurs in the offensive backfield.

I promise you don't know more about this than me.

 

For the third time, I never said it was a first down. Fucking retard.

 

Here, see if this helps you then you can shut your cake hole. I know the role of a LJ because I was a LJ on many occasions.

Line Judge
Straddles line of scrimmage on side of field opposite Linesman. Keeps time of game as a backup for clock operator. Along with Linesman is responsible for offside, encroachment, and actions pertaining to scrimmage line prior to or at snap. Line Judge keys on closest setback on his side of field. Line Judge is to observe his receiver until he moves at least seven yards downfield. He then moves toward backfield side, being especially alert to rule on any back in motion and on flight of ball when pass is made (he must rule whether forward or backward). Line Judge has primary responsibility to rule whether or not passer is behind or beyond line of scrimmage when pass is made. He also assists in observing actions by blockers and defenders who are on his side of field. After pass is thrown, Line Judge directs attention toward activities that occur in back of Umpire. During punting situations, Line Judge remains at line of scrimmage to be sure that only the end men move downfield until kick has been made. He also rules whether or not the kick crossed line and then observes action by members of the kicking team who are moving downfield to cover the kick. The Line Judge will advise the Referee when time has expired at the end of each period. Also assists referee with intentional grounding and determines whether pass is forward or backward.