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Losing my religion for equality

Discussion in 'Religion & Spirituality Forum' started by weavervegas, Jul 19, 2009.

  1. hasbeen99

    hasbeen99 Fighting the stereotype

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    Chapter 5 – The Role of a Christian Wife
    “The Lord God said, It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.’” –Genesis 2:18
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    A Yielding Devotion

    Wives, understand and support your husbands by submitting to them in ways that honor [Jesus].” --Colossians 3:18 (The Message)

    As it applies to women, the word ‘submit’ may be the most misused and despised word in the entire Bible. It has been interpreted and applied by traditionalists as though the husband’s word is the law of the home, and wives do not have the right to question or challenge their husbands. But as we learned in the last chapter, that’s not even close to what the Bible really says.
    In the original Greek, the word translated as ‘submit’ is a combination of two words: ‘hupo’ (hoop-O), which means “to yield; and ‘tasso’ (TAHS-so), which means “devoted”. Everywhere we see “submit” in the New Testament, the original Greek word is ‘hupotasso’ (hoo-po-TAHS-so), which literally translated means, “yielding devotion”. This is exactly how the Bible says wives should relate to their husbands. The motivation is not power, it is love, and not just love for their husbands. The real motivation is love for Jesus.
    But what exactly does ‘yielding’ look like? Once again, I think C.S. Lewis explained it well:

    Of course, as long as the husband and wife are agreed, no question of a head need arise; and we may hope that this will be the normal state of affairs in a Christian marriage. But when there is a real disagreement, what is to happen? Talk it over, of course; but I am assuming they have done that and still failed to reach an agreement. What do they do next? They cannot decide by a majority vote, for in a council of two there can be no majority. Surely, only one or other of two things can happen: either they must separate and go their own ways or else one or other of them must have a deciding vote. If marriage is permanent, one or other party must, in the last resort, have the power of deciding the family policy. 2

    We learned in Chapter 4 that the Bible has given that deciding vote to the husband, but that privilege – if you want to call it that – comes with enormous responsibility. If a husband has to use that power in a disagreement, he is fully responsible for the outcome of that decision. If the situation works out well, everyone’s happy. But if it blows up because of his decision, everyone suffers and it’s his fault. So this is definitely an option of last resort, when all other discussion has failed.
    That’s one of the reasons the wife’s supportive role in marriage is so important. The husband’s assigned role dictates that he must bear the weight of leading and serving the family, and it also holds him accountable for its well-being. In order for him to accept and excel in his role, he needs your help! The good news is, God has created you and equipped you to do that. There are three basic roles the Bible gives Christian wives: companion, helper, and minister.
     
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    A Christian wife is a COMPANION.
    “The LORD God said, ‘It is not good for the man to be alone.” --Genesis 2:18a

    Did you know that was the first time in the Bible God said something wasn’t good? Man has needed companionship from the very beginning, and God created woman specifically for that purpose. As much as men like spending time with their buddies, the second person God created wasn’t “one of the guys”. No, the man’s need for companionship goes much deeper than watching a game or going fishing. It’s a need only a wife can truly fulfill. As corny as Jerry McGuire’s “You complete me” line was, he was telling the truth. That was God’s plan from the beginning.

    A Christian wife is a helper.
    “’…I will make a helper suitable for him.’” --Genesis 2:18b

    ...Whenever a wife is willing to give all of herself to her husband, he has the support he needs to become the man she needs him to be.


    A Christian wife is a minister.
    Wives, in the same way be submissive to your husbands so that, if any of them do not believe the word, they may be won over without words by the behavior of their wives, when they see the purity and reverence of your lives.” --1 Peter 3:1-2

    ...Ladies, do not underestimate the powerful witness you have to your husbands! It may take time, but you are likely the best chance your husband has of understanding how much God loves him. Even if your husband is a strong Christian and leading you spiritually, your witness is just as important to him.


    A wife’s true beauty and worth in the eyes of God

    ...I’ve watched women waste away their entire lives in misery trying desperately to be loved and admired by society while completely missing everything God placed in their lives that have real and lasting value – faith, hope, and the love of their families. It’s truly a tragedy.
    But God doesn’t want that for you. He has placed things in you that are far more beautiful than any airbrushed model, and far more precious than any diamond. He created you for purposes that have eternal meaning and value beyond anything the world can offer you with its narrow definition of success.

    “Your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as braided hair and the wearing of gold jewelry and fine clothes. Instead, it should be that of your inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is precious in God's sight.” --1 Peter 3:3-4

    Who can find a virtuous and capable wife? She is worth more than precious rubies. Her husband can trust her, and she will greatly enrich his life. She will not hinder him but help him all her life. Her children stand and bless her. Her husband praises her: "There are many virtuous and capable women in the world, but you surpass them all!"
    Charm is deceptive, and beauty does not last; but a woman who fears the Lord will be greatly praised. Reward her for all she has done. Let her deeds publicly declare her praise.
    --Proverbs 31:10-12, 28-31 (NLT)
     
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    But I was talking about their roles as women toward society, not just as wives to their husbands.
     
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    Not good. As far as wives go, you were considered property.
     
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    Yes, I know, but I want to hear Hasbeen say it.
     
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    :thinking:

    Got a reference?
     
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    1st Timothy Chapter 2 in regards to women's role in the Church?
    Corinithians 14:34-35?
     
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    Thou shall not covet the stuff thy neighbours owns. ;)

    His house, his slaves, his livestock, his wife.
     
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    1 Tim. 2:12 "I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence".

    One head is order and two heads is a monster. Whoever the pastor is then he/she should not have others trying gain authority over the pastor.

    1 Corin. 14: 34-35

    This refers to women, men and children are not to chatter in church while a service is going on. It's totally ok for women to preach.
    Many take these verses to keep women from the pulpit and ministering the Word. I know women that is now in foreign countries as missionaries, etc.
    Women are mentioned in the Bible as teachers, etc.
     

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