Hypothetical draft day choice

I gotta say that and ILB are about the only spots I'd pass on for BPA.

 

since we could really use a DT, DE, or CB, I don't think we have to lock into the one position to reach. Then, if those fail, you go OL IMO. but not before, to me anyway.

And, ideally, in that order - DT, DE, CB. CB has two guys who should be good starters, so if that rookie can compete for nickel, that's as good as I'd hope for. We even have three decent DE as far as I'm concerned for 2009, unless something changes obviously, so that puts that lower than DT in my ideals. I can almost get with not rushing the passer - we've had good talent and been mediocre at rushing the passer before - but this "we can't stop the run" shit has to go.

 

Go for the best player available, depth is an illusion in the NFL, especially in the trenches, we could lose 3 starters by week 4 and wish you had drafted an OL that is now in the starting lineup for some other team. While your DL that you reached for came in to camp overweight nursing an ankle injury that happened in June

 

I think they have to DL with the 59th unless somebody falls to them that they just can't pass up. DL is the biggest weakness on the team atm by far. Not like that is news to anyone here of course.

 

Honestly, I see a guard pick as affecting the OL depth positively because it allows us to use Keydrick Vincent as a primary backup, possibly an interior utility guy.

There are still unsigned veterans out there at both spots, of course. That includes DeWayne Robertson, whom we reportedly contacted.

It's a tough call for me. Throwing in something like CB would make it even tougher.

 

The 'can't stop the run' thing is puzzling. We were pretty good against the run early - then we weren't. Is that scheme or personell? In Meeks we trust.

Additionally - I gotta go back to BPA - and since we have needs at OL, DL, and CB, that should be broad enough to keep us from reaching.

As for which we need more, we have no starter at RG. We have starters at DT. Which is a bigger need? Is a # 59 pick at DL going to start over the 4 guys we have slated ( Pepp, Kemo, Lewis, Brayton )? Even if Peppers sits, would they start over ( Johnson, Kemo, Lewis Brayton)? I'd think a #59 RG would have a better shot at starting right away.

Plus - there's still depth in free agency.

Again - I come away from this feeling like we're in pretty good shape.

 

It's so hard to say. Just like our pass defense shouldn't have failed late, either. There's no good reason for it. There's no good reason Chris Harris was blowing people up early and went silent either. Maybe there's an injury we don't know about, but that's unreliable.

We were OK against the run early, and with our two guys. Not like we ever had great depth. So did it just wear down? I have a hard time believing that the Chargers and other good run teams didn't figure out how to run up the middle so early but the Lions did.

Either way, above and beyond any Peppers drama, above and beyond anything going on with this team I can't see John Fox standing for this shit being as bad as it is against the run.

We really are in solid shape, yes. But we have some things to get, some impact we can't afford to buy.

I disagree. He was good last year and he's healthy. Backing that player is a far less great need than backing one of the two DTs we could've dropped last year without my complaint.

I don't think the guard would start unless something happened, and if we're using that, we're no better on the DL. A DE is absolutely necessary for rush - there's no doubting that - but you know that player would be situational at best for 2009. A DT probably won't start, but you know we're kinda weak there and have zero depth. So those two players are roleplayers, just as a guy fighting for nickel would be a roleplayer.

But all those guys would play more than a rookie guard. We still need that, and we need it cheap, but I wouldn't put it over the others (just IMO). Truthfully if we needed to put a pick into talent on the OL I'd put it into a LT - since veteran OTs aren't cheap at all, Schwartz can't play LT. Wharton can, and that's our backup plan at OT. That's not enough depth.

 

Ya'll really need to draft a new coach

 

Other than a week 6 gashing by Warrick Dunn - we were great vs. the run until after the bye.

Fargas - 22-89
Kevin Smith - 24-112 (!)
Turner - 24-117 ( they put up 28 in Q4, 3 turner TD's. )
GB put up 432 yards total
THEN WE DESTROYED TAMPA
Denver got nothing
NYG fucked us deep - for over 300 yards rushing
Held NO run game - but gave up 10000000 yards passing in Q4.

Honestly - I'd say our pass defense sucked more than our run defense. What teams did to us in Q4 was nuts. I had forgotten.

One thing that sticks out is T.O.P. Key stat - and we rarely won it, even when we ran the ball well and won the game. Our defense was on the field alot early, and maybe this allowed teams to fuck us in Q4.

I'm not going to miss Trgovac.

 

He did have surgery for a torn labrum.

Plenty of our runs were big gains which means they do the same to TOP as a long pass.