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Satan has always wanted children to die

Discussion in 'Religion & Spirituality Forum' started by Thelt, Mar 10, 2009.

  1. Black&Blue

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    There is no explanation. Some people will do sick things for no reason at all.
     
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    Because supernatural thought is not logical. And there is ALWAYS a duality present in Nature; good/evil, light/dark, up/down, forward/backward, before/after, etc.

    Evil is just the dual opposite of the good that you promote through your religious construction. It is inescapable and will always be present because it is natural part of Nature.
     
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    Why would evil be a part of nature? If you believe in evolution then the species should evolve a great desire to prolong the life of the species. Killing children is counter to that.
     
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    Good and Evil are human name tags. Chimps, lions, house cats, etc. can be unbelievably "cruel" to their animal victims before they kill them. There is some evidence that they enjoy it, especially the chimps. Many animals kill animal children. It is not good or evil, it is just Nature. Nature can be brutal.

    Inter-species conservation in the animal kingdom is not known or supported by evidence (you would first have to show that animals recognize themselves as a "species"). Inter-family conservation is the norm, though even that is not universal. Inter-species warfare is very very common.
     
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    As a parent I can not imagine ever harming one of my kids on purpose. I can not grasp how anyone else would either. I know there are those who do, way too many really, but I still can not understand or fathom it. It seems so alien to me that it seems that something must be driving it, call it satan or something else if that idea bothers you.

    Animals are often cruel to their prey but not usually do their own offspring. Usually mother animals are very protective of their young even if fathers are not. I guess that is not always true but animals are not sentient.
     
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    It's called psychosis. It's not some boogyman with horns and a pitchfork. That's what primitive societies believed to justify what they couldn't explain.
     
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    I am not talking about individuals I am talking about cultures that saw child sacrifice as being acceptable.
     
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    That was a long time ago.
     
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    they saw it as acceptable because somebody told them it was acceptable and they believed it. they probably had to be convinced that if they DIDN'T sacrifice a child on the 12th day of the 3rd month, then the god(s) would be angry and the harvest would be poor or some such nonsense. they probably grew up believing everything that person said because everybody they knew also believed that person.

    you have to be pretty damned religious in order to do something like that, imo. isn't the biblical parable about abraham being asked to sacrifice isaac all about the absolute faith that abraham had in god?
     
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    And the sacrifices of the ancient middle American cultures were not usually done by the family itself. The child would have been decided on by the village, most likely with the involvement of the family and some sort of restitution paid, and then the child is handed over to the priest.

    Even now, in Middle Eastern cultures there is honor in death for the right reasons and the Japanese have a long extreme history of it as well (not child sacrifice, just the cultural meme that it is honorable and maybe even desirable to die under certain conditions).

    Notice Thelt, it is the priest that handles this business. Satan and God are dual opposites pairs.
     
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