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The try to stump the great collin on a football question thread.

Discussion in 'Carolina Panthers' started by Go 4 two, Jan 15, 2009.

  1. Black&Blue

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  2. 49erpi

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    This is another great example of my "attrition" theory with Collin. He will continue to post on this subject, no matter how wrong he is, until I tire of it and then he will claim victory. It's truely amazing watching this clown go.
     
  3. Collin

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    Good grief. Show me an example of a comeback route being run by any NFL team. The hilarious thing is that even people who don't know a whole lot about football are aware that comeback routes are a pee wee level play. As I said, the reason you don't see them at college or above (and usually not even high school) is that waiting for the receiver to turn and come back to the football gives the defense time to react. You only run a "comeback route" when you aren't good enough to rely on timing.

    Also, it's hysterical for you to pretend like you're correct simply because you say so while everyone else is "fooled." No one respects your opinion on anything because everyone thinks that you're a know-nothing troll. They don't agree with you because you're obviously wrong, not because they're "fooled."
     
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    Dislike? No. Continually cause problems? Yes. Whining when other people respond in kind or take it into new threads is beyond hypocrisy, as is pretending you're doing some service for the board that the owner of the board has told you not to do.
     
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  5. Collin

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    So now you're pretending that using one set of rules for me and one set of rules for people you like is doing "a service for the board"? Magnus, it's staggering that you still don't understand that you need to make your lies believable. Absolutely no one on TBR believes that you don't dislike me. Insisting otherwise just makes you look absurd, and as I said, letting your enmity affect the way you moderate exposes your hypocrisy better than my words ever could. Moreover, you can't exactly claim the moral high ground when you engage in the same kind of behavior I do, just not as often. I understand that you're embarrassed about Jake shitting the bed after you invested so much of your credibility in defending him, but try to get a grip.
     
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    Wrong, again. Comebacks allow for more separation and give the receiver more time to turn and make the corner miss. Hooks/curls rarely give that opportunity and first contact is usualy almost instant. That's why comebacks are generally used when the corner sits in a deep cushion. If you try to throw a hook from that position will be jumped.

    A comeback uses the cushion from the line of scrimmage to an advantage by driving him downfield them coming back to the line of scrimmage to increase separtion and allow for yards after the catch. You couldn't be more wrong.
     
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    I thought you were a cheerleader.
     
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    I know.
     
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    You're not even trying to understand.

    I'm saying that you pretending you're "doing a service for the board" by telling people what to think and telling some of them to leave is something the owner of the board has asked you not to do.

    So either you misunderstood, or you're just trying to read what you desperately want to read.


    I said it was based on other factors. No, you're right, I don't like you based on your actions. Yes, your actions do bear different weight in my opinion. No, I'm not concerned with whether you like that or not.
     
  10. Collin

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    By all means, keep digging yourself a deeper grave. The comeback is what allows the defender to get a jump, which is precisely why it isn't used at higher levels. When you wait for the receiver to turn before throwing the ball, the defender obviously sees that and has time to make a break on the pass. When running a hook or curl, the defensive back is watching the receiver, but the ball is already in the air before the receiver makes his break. Therefore there is little time between when the receiver turns and when the ball arrives, leaving little chance for the defender to break up the pass.

    And I'm guessing from the lack of a response that you haven't been able to find a single example of a designed route in the NFL where the receiver turns and starts to run back towards the line of scrimmage before the quarterback throws the ball. Your problem is that your ego far outstrips your actual abilities. I'm sure you really thought you were going to make me look bad with this "trap," and now that your own ignorance has made you look ridiculous, you're panicking.



    I've told you that I don't care about what you or LarryD think about what I do. I've also been clear that I don't behave the way I do in service of anyone else. I try to drive away morons because they get in the way of legitimate discussion, something that I enjoy. I understand that LarryD doesn't care about that, and you certainly don't since you only want ass-kissers, but I'm not concerned with either of you two.

    Moreover, that's not the point. I've been insisting forever that you are a hypocrite who says one thing and does another. You finally exposing that by using one set of moderating rules for other people and a different set for me is the best proof I could ever ask for. Now ideally I'd rather not have to deal with any of this nonsense at all and have you simply be honest, but in lieu of that unlikely scenario, I'll take a situation where you expose the bias you keep denying so vociferously. People know that I'm an asshole, so you're not breaking any new ground there. The only thing you're achieving by "punishing" me is to stain that reputation you care so much about. You can use your moderator powers capriciously to act on grudges unless LarryD says you can't. I obviously can't stop you. But you can't do so and then have anyone believe that you're not consumed with bias.
     

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