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Running Red Sox thread

Discussion in 'MLB - Baseball Forum' started by vpkozel, Apr 25, 2005.

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  1. Jan 13, 2009 at 4:44 PM #1461
    MikeNinerHunt

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    The knock has always been that Rice didn't have the longevity, yet Sandy Koufax is in. Never thought Rice was a first ballot, but I'm glad the roid era made the voters take another look at his numbers.

    Even before Raffy Palmeiro was busted, I checked out his career stats. Only finished in the top five of the MVP voting once, and that was a fourth place finish. Rice was top five six times, am I right?
     
  2. Jan 13, 2009 at 4:47 PM #1462
    vpkozel

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    The fact that it took Rice until his last try is pure lunacy.
     
  3. Jan 14, 2009 at 10:30 AM #1463
    Collin

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    Koufax had some of the best pitching seasons of all-time. Rice had a couple of great seasons, but nowhere near that level. I have no problem with him getting in, but it's no mystery why it took this long.
     
  4. Jan 14, 2009 at 10:33 AM #1464
    gridfaniker

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    Rice was top five six times and top three three times (won in '78)

    He was top five in batting average four times, in slugging five times, in run s four times, in RBIs 7 times, in homeruns five times.


    If Orlando Cepeda is in the Hall, Rice has to be as well.
     
  5. Jan 14, 2009 at 1:09 PM #1465
    Shrapnel

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    Is Fred Lynn in? What are his numbers?
     
  6. Jan 14, 2009 at 1:36 PM #1466
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    No. Sadly, neither are Juan Beniquez or Dick Pole
     
  7. Jan 14, 2009 at 1:49 PM #1467
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    a couple? lol

    1975: 22/102/.309 third in MVP voting; second in ROY voting
    1977: 39/114/320 fourth in MVP voting
    1978: 46/139/315 MVP (1st in RBIs and HR; third in average)
    1979: 39/130/.325 fifth in MVP voting
    1983: 39/126/305 fourth in MVP voting (1st in RBIs and HR)
    1984: 25/122/280
    1985: 27/103/291
    1986: 39/110/324 third in MVP voting


    stick to football
     
  8. Jan 14, 2009 at 1:53 PM #1468
    Collin

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    Five, then, if you want to quibble. The rest of his career was pretty ordinary.
     
  9. Jan 14, 2009 at 2:12 PM #1469
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    Weren't he and Rice rookies the same year? He had a pretty decent career, didn't he?
     
  10. Jan 14, 2009 at 2:21 PM #1470
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    that's about how many great seasons Koufax had. for the 12-year period between 75 and 86, Rice was arguably the best hitter in baseball. Between 77 and 79 (average 41/128/.320 per season) there is no argument.

    I know you're just trying to be an argumentative troll, but c'mon, you're embarrassing yourself.
     
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